nomercy Wrote:Afraid I have to agree. A strong grass-type can take out three of them without much trouble. If you play against someone with quite high levels I wouldn't be surprised if they won with two Pokemon.
It's not about the Pokemon themselves, I'm sure he has lovely little mons. But as a set, they're weak. The whole team has to be strong. Most of those are destroyed by the standard Deathstar (Starmie with:Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Surf/Psychic)
So you guys think my teams weak huh?
God-IX Wrote:Starmie is a not so good of a chioce either I would say, why are we discussing this guys lame team and how to beat him haha?
I could beat that team with a pigey haha
Dude, <_<; you obviously know nothing about the metagame. Starmie is one of the hands down best Pokemon in the game. It's an excellent Mixed Sweeper, Special Sweeper, Rapid Spinner. Has a versatile moveset that covers many of it's weaknesses and has solid stats hands down. Learns excellent Water AND Psychic attacks and is easily obtainable, and breedable (With the Ditto trick.).
...I wish I knew what those terms meant, but I'm just a casual Pokemon player.
Team: Varies, but my primary set:
Moltres, Venusaur, Graveler, Gyarados (ALWAYS IN MY PARTY), Zapdos, Flareon, Dragonair, Hypno, Haunter, Pidgeot. I may have others.
And I'd have a Golem and Haunter, but I have no-one to trade with. =(
God-IX Wrote:Or, I can put an electric pokemon out there, and your stupid star fish is out....
Are you always this cocky, or do you just assume everyone else is inferior to your stupidity?
Testy aren't we? What electric types beat Starmie out for speed on the switch shall we, and we'll just see my "stupidity"...
Starmie has a max stat of 329 in Speed on a neutral Nature, 361 on a beneficial nature. If you're going with the Standard Deathstar, you'll be going a Modest Nature Special Sweeper. Assuming you want an all out sweeper you'll be putting the standard 6 HP EV's, 254 Sp.Atk.,254 Sp, This will give Starmie, assuming he has perfect IV's stats of
HP: 324
Atk:224
Def:
Sp.Atk:328
Sp.Def:
Spd:361
(Those are what matter.)
Standard set of:
Ice Beam
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
(Diamond and Pearl movesets make Shadow Ball special.)
Raichu has a max speed stat of 328 on a beneficial Nature. If you're going off a max speed benefitting nature the best stat it could have for Sp.Def. is 259.
Magneton's max Speed stat is 262 on a Beneficial nature.
Electivire's max Speed stat is 317
Ampharos 229
Raikou 361
Manetric 339
Zapdos 328
Luxray 262
Those are the main electric types that could hurt my little Starmie....And only one,...... A LEGENDARY 00B3R...... matches it for speed.
So if I were actually stupid enough to not switch out the Starmie for a DDtar or Rhyperior or Jolteon (For the inevitable Volt Absorb I would get.) I would not only land the first hit, I would do considerable damage since most of those are Physical in D/P...Shadow Ball would hurt quite a bit.
God-IX Wrote:Well, I am too lazy to argue, and I am not all into looking up stats on my pokemon, and I have not played in a long time, so the one day that I do care, I will post back, but I don't use pokemon that have only one strenth, so have fun in your game.
In my opinion, I still think Starmie sucks
I have my ingame team built out of what I like, including Under Used and Never Used mon in the Metagame. In the Metagame, I use what I like as well, and makes the games even more fun seeing how they will fare against others who make "00b3r" killing machines. Legendaries suck, they ruin the games by far when everyone uses:
Zapdos
Mewtwo
(Starter)
Entei
Groudon
Raikou
ect. Whatever Legendaries you prefer... =/