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Unbiased my ass... =/

Xbox has worse graphics than GC, but less slowdown in offline multimode.
Xbox has voice chat, which is both a good and bad point.
Xbox servers are not linked and they get updates much later than the GC ones.
Xbox has a smaller community (not just on jp servers) and a bigger cheater to legit ratio.
Xbox has a much smaller cmode community than GC due to the lack of legits and lack of people in general.
Xbox does not have a second game that is linked with Ep1&2 (Ep3).
GC has FSOD-X and as such, a higher chance of corruption.
GC requires a kb to be able to communicate easier.
GC has Vega.
GC requires multiple memory cards to have over 4 characters.

Everyone that I know who has experienced the Xbox version has preferred the GC. The only people I tend to see saying that the Xbox version is superior are people who bought PSOX as their first ever PSO and have never really played GC enough.

In my clan are three DC veterans who went to Xbox from DC, but then moved to GC due to the lack of a decent community there and the other aforementioned reasons. I also have a friend who left GC for Xbox, but then came back to GC within a few months due to the lack of decent people on it. I have yet to hear of anyone leaving GC for Xbox and staying there.

That is my personal experience though, so perhaps I just happen to have avoided people who found Xbox to be superior to GC? :wacko:
i think it might be because the GC feels more like a system where as the Xbox feels more like a comp, and i have both so my opinion is not bias in the least bitTongue
Omar Wrote:Unbiased my ass... =/

Xbox has worse graphics than GC, but less slowdown in offline multimode.
Xbox has voice chat, which is both a good and bad point.
Xbox servers are not linked and they get updates much later than the GC ones.
Xbox has a smaller community (not just on jp servers) and a bigger cheater to legit ratio.
Xbox has a much smaller cmode community than GC due to the lack of legits and lack of people in general.
Xbox does not have a second game that is linked with Ep1&2 (Ep3).
GC has FSOD-X and as such, a higher chance of corruption.
GC requires a kb to be able to communicate easier.
GC has Vega.
GC requires multiple memory cards to have over 4 characters.

Everyone that I know who has experienced the Xbox version has preferred the GC. The only people I tend to see saying that the Xbox version is superior are people who bought PSOX as their first ever PSO and have never really played GC enough.

In my clan are three DC veterans who went to Xbox from DC, but then moved to GC due to the lack of a decent community there and the other aforementioned reasons. I also have a friend who left GC for Xbox, but then came back to GC within a few months due to the lack of decent people on it. I have yet to hear of anyone leaving GC for Xbox and staying there.

That is my personal experience though, so perhaps I just happen to have avoided people who found Xbox to be superior to GC? :wacko:


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1)lol, Xbox has worse graphics... oh yeah I forgot GC get an extra effect with their telepipes!!! Woaa thats worth the purchase.
2) There are no bad sides to voice chat, because you can voice ban people who are being annoying. However, there are always bad sides to keyboards, breaks up the play!
3) The servers being separated are a good thing in my opinion. there are enough people playing in seperate servers where I play, joining servers would be pointless. Rememebr how bad DC was with servers joined?? I would rather stick with individual servers.
4) where is your evidence to prove that there is a bigger cheat ratio??? This has immediately lost you any credability you had in your argument by making such obserd statements!
5) Ep 3 does not come into it. We are discussing EP 1 and 2 here.
6) I am afraid that your friends actions doesnt mean you can generalise your opinion to the whole of the PSO community. I know many people who have come from GC to XBox because of the cheating and hacking in the GC version and the ability to chat!
7) Perhaps I just happen to have avoided people who found GC to be superior to XBox? :wacko:

Next....
theepw Wrote:--
1)lol, Xbox has worse graphics... oh yeah I forgot GC get an extra effect with their telepipes!!! Woaa thats worth the purchase.
2) There are no bad sides to voice chat, because you can voice ban people who are being annoying. However, there are always bad sides to keyboards, breaks up the play!
3) The servers being separated are a good thing in my opinion. there are enough people playing in seperate servers where I play, joining servers would be pointless. Rememebr how bad DC was with servers joined?? I would rather stick with individual servers.
4) where is your evidence to prove that there is a bigger cheat ratio??? This has immediately lost you any credability you had in your argument by making such obserd statements!
5) Ep 3 does not come into it. We are discussing EP 1 and 2 here.
6) I am afraid that your friends actions doesnt mean you can generalise your opinion to the whole of the PSO community. I know many people who have come from GC to XBox because of the cheating and hacking in the GC version and the ability to chat!
7) Perhaps I just happen to have avoided people who found GC to be superior to XBox? :wacko:

Next....
It will only be next when you actually make valid points I am afraid. You clearly don't understand who you are dealing with ^_^

1) Regardless of how major or minor a point is. It does have an effect for some people. Disregarding a point in such a manner is immature and shows your blantant bias towards the xbox version. Fyi, the telepipe effects, cloaking effects and water effects in Ep2 are all noticably poorer on Xbox.
2) There are clearly bad sides to voice chat or people wouldn't complain about it on more Xbox-esque pso sites! If you voice ban many people, then it becomes hard to communicate with others. The shortcutting of phrases to the Function keys on GC means that commonly used phrases (the ones that you use most when playing, so will break up the play as you say) can be said faster than saying them. Voice chat is very good for communicating, but you cannot say that the keyboard is rubbish because you haven't got adept enough at using it yet...
3) Sorry, but that is pathetic. In what way would linking the servers on ep1&2 actually do any damage?! Dc was completely different due to the much worse cheating/cracking. If you care to head over to any other PSO site, you will find that the Xboxers have genuine problems finding decent games in their region (especially those who play at unusual hours).
4) Sorry, but I assumed you had actually researched the different versions before you began stating that one was superior to the other. Head over to PSOW and ask any of the members of the legit guilds or cmode groups how hard it is to find legit players and then connect to Deneb 9 or Altair 2 or Altair 4 or Alcyone 6 and see how many legit players you find. Here are some quotes from less biased PSOX players here at ragol:
Quote:There is some legit players on PSOX, you just need to look for them. If you come online with me one time I'll introduce you to the legit players I play with.
Quote:it would be good to get to a legit scene, never thought there were that many, even the clans are dodgy.
5) Incorrect. If you are considering buying a game, then surely finding out that for one console you can play a completely different game using the same hunters license as ep1&2 will sway you towards one console more than the other?
6) I would appreciate it if you could introduce me to those people. If they actually exist, then I seriously doubt that they played GC for a decent amount of time before coming to that conclusion. I speak from personal experience because the people in question spent a long time on both versions trying to have as much fun as possible without any bias towards one console (something you should try do). Their opinions should mean a lot more than those of someone who says silly things like having the regions separated is a good thing! Big Grin


You are always likely to find people who enjoy one console's version more than the other due to their own personal preferences, but if you will take the time to visit other bigger communities, you will find the points I have outlined above to be true. Please go visit the psow forums and see how what the xbox player's opinions are. They show less bias than yourself, so you may be shocked to find....negative views! :O
hmm i know there on topic but wernt that just plain nerd bitchin !?

anyway the graphics are two diff types the x-box is cell shaded to effect
cube aint as well shaded but both have good and bad sides it seems more of a cube v box fight here.

but d.c's version was free altogether for me and most peeps i knew so that won the good old days.
no.. you gotta watch what u say tho, they might take that as an insult, that wasnt just bitchin,k? they are trying to despute facts about systems, valid and completely appropriate, omar can handle this exchange of opinions, however just cause there is only one thing better about GC compared to Xbox in PSO doesnt mean that there arent more(Super Smash Bros, even tho 2d the background graphics were way better then any Xbox ive seen yet(its in the detailsWink)
darkice Wrote:hmm i know there on topic but wernt that just plain nerd bitchin !?

anyway the graphics are two diff types the x-box is cell shaded to effect
cube aint as well shaded but both have good and bad sides it seems more of a cube v box fight here.
No, they both use the same graphic styles with slightly different effects in some places.

Watch your flaming, however indirect.
Omar Wrote:No, they both use the same graphic styles with slightly different effects in some places.

Watch your flaming, however indirect.

sad xbox has more potential and for peeps who r...

anyway the real q is when uni comes its xbox'cube and ps2 that will be a better comparison.
Omar said:
>>It will only be next when you actually make valid points I am afraid. You clearly don't understand who you are dealing with ^_^

*--Just because you have been posting on these boards longer than me, doesnt make you more knowledgable i am afraid ^_^

1) Regardless of how major or minor a point is. It does have an effect for some people. Disregarding a point in such a manner is immature and shows your blantant bias towards the xbox version. Fyi, the telepipe effects, cloaking effects and water effects in Ep2 are all noticably poorer on Xbox.

*--No.... thats not an argument. You do not buy a GC especially to watch a telepipe effect! The main reason why this point is invalid, is due to the fact that most people had no idea the GC had different telepipes before they bought the game! So thats a flawed point! I find it immature when someone is blatantly scraping around for any spare arguments they can find.

2) There are clearly bad sides to voice chat or people wouldn't complain about it on more Xbox-esque pso sites! If you voice ban many people, then it becomes hard to communicate with others. The shortcutting of phrases to the Function keys on GC means that commonly used phrases (the ones that you use most when playing, so will break up the play as you say) can be said faster than saying them. Voice chat is very good for communicating, but you cannot say that the keyboard is rubbish because you haven't got adept enough at using it yet...

*-- erm... no! Voice baning people does not make it hard communicate with others, because in that situation, you are implying that you want to chat to those who arebeing annoying in the first place! It makes communication easier, thats what you have to understand. By cutting out all of the people who are making a noise you can chat to people in the lobbies who you WANT to chat to far more easier..... Oh, and making more rash statements by saying I am not adept at using a keyboard is another pointless statement, you obviously dont know me, because this is coming from someone who works in on office and can touch type!!!.......... and coming from someone who can touch type, you can say things FAR quicker than typing them! Plus the extra fees of paying out for a keyboard!
You fail to understand that the Xbox has preset words aswell, which can be used when needed. However, most of the time you scramble around trying to find out the appropriate phrase to say. Voice chat is essential in challenge mode! There is no way, anyone can say that challenge mode would be easier without the ease of voice chat. Discussing clear stratgies and which items should be used as well as alearting people as to where they should go is FAR easier with voice chat! you waste precious time having to stop and type and I have known some people on the GC version to have failed challenge modes on GC due to the stopping-typing-stopping-typing routine. That breaks up play, slows the game down and makes it less enjoyable!

3) Sorry, but that is pathetic. In what way would linking the servers on ep1&2 actually do any damage?! Dc was completely different due to the much worse cheating/cracking. If you care to head over to any other PSO site, you will find that the Xboxers have genuine problems finding decent games in their region (especially those who play at unusual hours).

*--Quite simple really..... its simply probablility, the higher the population on a server, the more chance there are of being hackers! Comprendé? And you base your comments on what others have said on other forums?? That really lets your argument down I am afraid. I have read forums in which people say they have had genuine problems with the GC version! Do I generalise that by saying, the GC version has more hackers??? Nope......

4) Sorry, but I assumed you had actually researched the different versions before you began stating that one was superior to the other. Head over to PSOW and ask any of the members of the legit guilds or cmode groups how hard it is to find legit players and then connect to Deneb 9 or Altair 2 or Altair 4 or Alcyone 6 and see how many legit players you find. Here are some quotes from less biased PSOX players here at ragol:

*--I dont see how owning the GC version and Xbox version makes me biased... I guess you didnt read my original post thoroughly enough! And If you had cared to actually search around on PSO, you will find legit ships and locations to play! I found this on the EU and US version fine, in fact I have a group of people I am doing challenge episode 2 with tonight!


5) Incorrect. If you are considering buying a game, then surely finding out that for one console you can play a completely different game using the same hunters license as ep1&2 will sway you towards one console more than the other?

*--Not when you have already bought a console! PSO came out long after GC was released. MANY people bought the GC from launch, without knowing about Ep 3. So your theory states, that people who have bought and Xbox from launch and bought PSO, and then hear of Ep 3, then go and sell their xbox and all their stuff jsut to buy a GC and Ep 3, because of the extra game! I dont know anyone who has done that once they have already bought a console, and if they did, they would be in an extreme minority of peole.... Oh, and if I bought Ep 1 and 2 originally, then I would not be attracted to a card game for which the gameplay style is completely different to a game which I am already perfectly happy with! If Ep3 had a similar gameplay style to Ep 1 and 2, that argument would apply. But it doesnt! Ep 3 and Ep1 and 2 are completely different games, and even if the hunters lisence did carry across, I wouldnt shelve out $50 to buy the game in the first place when I would blatently play Ep 1 and 2 more. It seems to me, that from playing on GC and Xbox ships, a lot of people have the same opinion as me when it comes to Ep 3.... a lot of people if given teh choice would have preferred a game similar to Ep 1 and 2, with more areas, new weapons and new char classes... instead we get a completely different game, which is NOT what we wanted. I know many people who arnt playing Ep 3 out of protest. Which is why I presume Sonic Team were sooo eager to present PSO Universe to prevent their franchise from crumbling away at their feet!

6) I would appreciate it if you could introduce me to those people. If they actually exist, then I seriously doubt that they played GC for a decent amount of time before coming to that conclusion. I speak from personal experience because the people in question spent a long time on both versions trying to have as much fun as possible without any bias towards one console (something you should try do). Their opinions should mean a lot more than those of someone who says silly things like having the regions separated is a good thing! Big Grin

*--Certainly..... Valyk, Valkyrie, Raven, Wilf and Supermodel are among some of my friends, all of them have clocked up over 1000 hours in the game, on XBOX alone, not taking into account the DC version! Both of them have said to me that they prefer the Xbox version, AFTER playing both. You seem to be forgetting, that I speak from personal experience as well. It is a shame that you have to put in cheep jabs '(something you should try do)' , because you cant take the fact that I dont like the GC version as much as the Xbox version.. get over it! If you read my quote above, it gives a perfectly good reason as to why unseparated regions are often a good thing!

show less bias than yourself, so you may be shocked to find....negative views!

*--lol, I cant believe how naive a person can be in one paragraph. I am sure that you can skip on over to read the PSOW forums as well and find...... negative views on the GC version! *shock horror!*

Next.....
you guys just stop aurguing a view is a view a moan is a moan

if this thread gets closed (i couldn't blame them) its because you keep shootin each other !!!

but seriosly thread closin time both have enough points across end this before it becomes just some old fashioned fight !

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