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Here's something that's been bugging me for awhile: why does Shifta require so much more MST than the other support techs? Today I was playing around with a mag I've been raising recently, a high MIND mag specifically for helping my forces and female non-force characters use their tech disks earlier. The mag currently has a MIND level of 85 (side note: I think high MIND mags are overrated unless you're a FOnewearl; when comparing this mag to my FOnewm's 30-MIND Nidra, I saw only a slight difference in technique damage...).

So today I had the four characters who have been raising this mag - my FOnewm, RAmarl, HUnewearl and FOnewearl - meet up and use some of the disks I've been storing on them. My RAmarl has had a disk of Shifta 20 for quite a while now, and its requirement was 591 MST. I passed her a Deband 20 disk, and she could already use it - it was around 380 MST, IIRC. Now, what's the deal with this? One of them she can use instantly... the other she couldn't use without equipping four Angel/Mind++'s, the Akiko's Frying Pan (+30 MST), and the high-MIND mag (and leveling it up to 84 MIND, that just barely got her to 592). Now, unless I misread something, Deband, Jellen and Zalure disks all have the same requirement. What's with the 591 for Shifta? True, Shifta is one of the most useful support techs (IMO; Jellen being the other), but why does this mean it requires over 200 more MST at level 20? It's just weird, IMO.

Also, I'd like to know where I can find a decent chart of disk requirements. Both this site and PSOW claim that Deband and J/Z require the same MST as Shifta does (they say 592 for all of them at level 20), but that's not true... unless I'm using a rather screwed-up version of this game that lists Deband requirements too low... :S

[brag]Heh, I used about twenty different disks today between those four characters... since my FOnewm has a God/Technique, all his techs but Deband (29), J/Z (29) and Megid (22... :ermm: ) are top-level... not bad for level 92 eh? [/brag]

i dont know. maybe your game is different. Myt friend has a game where androids cant use ---/ability. maybe your shifta needs more mst. Shifta is the most useful support tech so maybe the two websites are wrong. I just know that Shifta is not overrated

http://www.planetdreamcast.com/psoworld/...&artid=328
Tech Requirements for you!

Well done with the top level techs!

See, that's just the thing... it says 592 for all the level 20 support techs, whereas only Shifta 20 was at that level; Deband 20 was not, it was at 380...

Yeah, Shifta requires more MST, simply because it's the most powerful support technique.

Red support techniques (Shifta/Jellen) are more efficient than blue ones (Deband/Zalure).

shifta is definitely not overrated. at level 30 it adds something like 47 or 48% of your base atp to your attacking atp.

No without shifta i wouldent stand a chance.

on my hunewearl w/o shifta atp is bout 1400 with it its almost 2000!

Yeah, I didn't really mean to say "overrated" in terms of use... just its requirement is sort of ridiculous. Oh well. Doesn't really matter, I have the high MIND mag to pass around to correct this little annoyance, so I can use both at the same time next time I have this problem (i.e. when it's my HUnewearl's turn to learn level 20 S/D).

The requirement for Razonde will make you laugh, then.