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Yes, and the dependence on TP/fluids, and (depending on the character) rather bad stats in most places besides MST. Thus, forces are labeled for the "advanced player."

Sonic Saturn: You've been waiting for those gunners to drop their shields all this time?? Wow. Yeah, of course you can use techs... and other things. Try freezing, or paralyzing them... or using other special attacks, all of them can work (except drain specials like berserk, you'd still do 0 damage for those). But yeah, on Falz you should probably just mash the Foie button when he has his shield up... especially if you're a HUnewearl or a RAmarl (or a force, in which case you should probably just keep mashing the Foie button for the entire fight ). You may find that you do more damage with your Foie than with your weapons - heck, my RAmar and HUmar used their level-15 Foie on him and did about as much damage as their respective guns did with a heavy attack (roughly 105-110).

true but with my force lv 12 it is sooo easy partly because i kill everything in one hit he he thank you mag

NetNomad Wrote:Yes, and the dependence on TP/fluids, and (depending on the character) rather bad stats in most places besides MST. Thus, forces are labeled for the "advanced player."

well the stats would give begginers trouble but dependace of fluids arent too bad untill lvl 100

I'd disagree with you; if you're going all-tech (which is all but mandatory for a FOnewearl and also a common tactic for a FOnewm), you're always dependant on fluids. My FOnewearl is all-tech, of course, and she sometimes has problems with the number of Difluids she can use before I'm forced to pipe. My FOnewm doesn't really have this problem, but then he's a combo force so he doesn't always rely on all-techs (combo force: my term for a force that melees as well as nukes stuff with his techs).

I'd agree and say that Hunters are an easy beginner class.

When I first played PSO I was crazy and tried a Force...those are definitely not a beginner class, athough now I'm a professional at FOs.

WOA!! hang on, ur saying RAmars dont melee? bloody hell! and they dont use techniques apart from shifta dceband and resta? WTF??? i use rafoie and rabarta on a regualr basis, sometimes i use razonde, but not so often, and they dont melee? half of my weps r close combat dammit!! RAmars r dammed decent all rounders no matter what you say. i started with 1, and im happy with him, and RAcasts r pretty gd to, but if u dont have m+y as a mag attak ur pretty screwed. Personally i dont like hunters that much because they cant use very gd guns, and i doubt forces have the range of a ranger. i mean, who really wants just to blow stuff up with rafoie if u can do that, be a coward and shoot from range and kick enemies asses with a stag cutlery with the same character???

Fabo Craven Wrote:forces have the range of the rangers and the power of a hunter

but their power is limited but hunters and rangers can use spells and have unlimited amunition when they attack

ok this is how it is
HUNTERS-live logest,hit for alot,miss often
RANGERS-live medium,hit for medium, miss rarly
FORCES-live shortest,highest damage,even more rare miss
Forces are the best JUST get ove it people.

It's all personal preference and how well you can play that class. Take Forces for instance, some find it hard while others find it easy. It all comes with experience of playing the game.

Anything that can use good magic(lvl 20) is okay.Any higher there great. Any less they are more of a challenge.