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i read in a theread somewere that forest of sorrow quest had 4 hildelts sumwere u can pipe, could someone explain as 2 appeared, i ran off to see if there were any more and my teamate died.

You go in, run around until a third one drops. Kill that one only. Then another one drops, kill that one, and two drop. Then you have four.

But if you want four more easily and you happen to have the plus version, play Central Dome Fire Swirl and get the extra ending.

which room is it? i was in the room outside the room with the warp to the 2 rooms leading to the dragon *normally) you know, the long one with 5 doors off it.

5 doors? Not too sure what your on about there, but I thought it would be the one with crates and two barrier swithces to hit.

no, the one outside that one with 1 forcefield door, the door to the crates only room, the door to the room that your talking about and the door to the room with 3 bad guys and some crates, and 2 other doors.

Do you mean the one by next to the dome/on the dome? Or... I'm confused!

im going to make this very easy for you.....

Nice picture, but you're wrong... the four Hildelts appear in the room that Sonic Saturn is talking about. Sorry.

u c i didnt know which room they apeared in then i asked and i thought he thought that i was in the wrong room, but ve got them now, pied 3 times and still no hildtors

ok, im on pipe 50ish here, any idea how rare these guys r?

EDIT - Ria: Please, no double posting

Lol, you're not gonna get one by the 3rd pipe. Statistically:

Chance of seeing a rare monster: 1/512
Possible Hildelts/pipe: 4
Number of pipes required to see Hildetorr: 512/4 = 128
Chance of getting your Red Saber (I assume that's what you're piping since you're skyly): 1/2
Number of pipes required to get Red Saber: 128 * 2 = 256

But that's just a ballpark figure. You could theoretically get one on your first pipe, or it could take you till your 500th pipe, or further. Just be glad your character isn't a HUcast... I wasted 100 telepipes the other day doing just what you're doing, and I didn't get the Red Saber either.