doing a vcave run, for red sword so want to kill govulmers. however,something very gay happened- got to cave 3, got killed by an unseen lilly, came back it was a mil lilly, kill it no sange at 1/2 chance

but anyway, and good quests for govulmers. more than normal enemies? (all cave enemies are good for me pretty much)
addicting food has lots of govulmers.
Also alot of vulmers so chainsawd is possible.
and about the sange, it took me 12 hildetorrs to find a frozen shooter (whitill 1/2) so don't worry.
lol, i wasnt piping it though thats what pisses me off. i could get 5 in a day if i wanted, but the fact i wasnt piping it annoyed me more than anything

thx for the advice, ill do addicting food then pipe a sange at the end next time

Do AF, but then start over after the first room of Caves2 (after 2 C-Assassins and a Lily). That allows you to have really good odds at Red: Sword, Dagger, and Slicer. You can get a Chain Sawd easily too.
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