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Charge VS Beserk - whiteninja - 26-06-2006
Sephiroth Wrote:New favorite wep, definately the best, Vjaya FTW!'cept Vjaya are Hunter-only. GoE FTL.
Jarl, how many times do I need to tell you that ATP does not work like that!? If you have 800 base ATP, a Normal-Normal-Normal combo a BKB will more likely do more damage than it would with a Mechgun. But, if you have 1600 base ATP, the odds are that a Mechgun would actually do more damage!
SangeYasha, once you are a high enough level, sacrificing HP/TP/Meseta is NO obstacle, and it becomes the only way to greatly increase your strength.
Kekfa, I have heard you say that Ramarl's are better at Beserking than Ramars... What about Spirit? In particular, a Spirit Needle instead of a Beserk one. I had that idea today... Yeah, it's a bit more inaccurate, but 8 ATA would cover that. Really, he has nothing better to use his TP on.
HP is not at all endangered, so lower DFP and EVP are irrelevant. ATP is higher, so there is more damage. Zalure can be covered by either a teammate, or a Zalure Needle. An old post of mine Wrote:This one has an accuracy inbetween the other two. It is probably also the "best" of them for anyone who has TP. It does not put you in danger of death, nor does it require you to carry vast amounts of Meseta that you would loose if you did die. Carrying 10 Difluids allows for massive Spiriting for a long time, and if that runs out, there are always Trifluids. The main problem with it is that is stops at 8-9 TP, and sometimes that TP is needed for Resta instead (primarily with FO).
In seeing who can actually use Spirit: Androids are automatically ruled out and FOs have so much TP and need all of it for tech casting, so Spirit is impractical on them too. The two best classes to use Spirit on would be the Ramar, then Humar. Not only do they have decent ATA, but their MST is total crap. That is a good thing for Spirit. It means that you have less TP, and Spirit drains a fraction of the TP. So, one Difluid heals a higher percent of your max, and allows for more Spiriting than a Ramarl or Hunewearl would get.
People always say that Ramars have no use for MST; this gives them one!
Edit: And please don't lock the thread because some suggested Ramarls may not be the absolute best! XD
Charge VS Beserk - jarl - 26-06-2006
GoE?
and also, thats true, but we're not comparing a BKB to mechguns, we're comparing a sword to a BKB
Charge VS Beserk - NetNomad - 26-06-2006
I believe he meant using his FOmar in multi mode to cast S/Z. I doubt a FOmar could hit for 3400 even with that S/Z and a GoEd Vjaya.
And yeah, I've had the spirit theory too... it would seem sound, except that you can't use spirit infinitely... and let's say 4/5 needles hit every time you use the special. How fast would that drain your TP? :S
Oh well. You'll never catch me with a sacrificial needle, anyway... too whorish. Sorry. ;[
Charge VS Beserk - whiteninja - 26-06-2006
NetNomad Wrote:And yeah, I've had the spirit theory too... it would seem sound, except that you can't use spirit infinitely... and let's say 4/5 needles hit every time you use the special. How fast would that drain your TP?It would not be much faster than my Spirit Vulcans, and I get along fine with them. Just carry 10 Difluids, and you will find enough monofluids and Difluids randomly, that you will never have to even touch your Trifluids. And if that fails, wear a Spirit Garment, and 3 TP/Revival.
Jarl, GoE = God of Equip, the "equip all" AR code. I saw a Fomar using this yesterday, it had been a long time since I had seen it.
He was using a Smoking Plate, and it looked cool on him... unlike the green-costume Hunewearl I saw using one, along with a Red Ring and a Double Cannon. That was the ABSOLUTE FUGLIEST CHARACTER EVER!!!
Charge VS Beserk - Sephiroth Now - 26-06-2006
Whiteninja, you know what? you are a nimrod. I USE VJAYA WITH MY HUMAR. I was in Multi-Mode using my Force and my Hunter. DUHERRRRRRR. Do you really think I would waste such a wonderful weapon on a FO?
Charge VS Beserk - jarl - 26-06-2006
*steals vjaya*
Charge VS Beserk - Hrith - 26-06-2006
Whiteninja: no.
Charge VS Beserk - whiteninja - 26-06-2006
Wow, I just got owned.
Uh, but why? It seems like it would work... :S
Charge VS Beserk - jarl - 26-06-2006
whiteninja Wrote:Edit: And please don't lock the thread because some suggested Ramarls may not be the absolute best! XD
i think thats what the 'no' is for
Charge VS Beserk - Sephiroth Now - 26-06-2006
Sorry about the post Kef...
jarl Wrote:*steals vjaya*Hey! Get back here! *runs after Jarl*