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+------- Thread: HUmar (/showthread.php?tid=6280)
HUmar - jarl - 26-04-2005
this is taken directly from whiteninja, and these are sonicsaturns stats:
Quote: Lv 1 Lv 200 Mag Mats New Max Difference
ATP 40...835...114...37...1197.1237.100 + 2 God/Powers
DFP 22..538....5.....37....589....589..-28
MST 40.885....7*...31....961...1177..216
ATA 63.147....74....-......184..199..15 + 1 God/Arm
EVP 60.666.....-.....39....744...811..67
LCK 10.10.......-.....6......22....100..78
Max out ATP, ATA, and DFP; MST and EVP are higher than usual; LCK is hopeless.
So yeah.... he's basically screwed.
*- sanga, this is higher than lvl 5
just had to say that 
HUmar - Sonic Saturn - 26-04-2005
ah, well at least my ATP, and ATA are maxed out.... he he he... oh well... I like having my MST, DFP, and EVP higher than usual, I'm just annoyed about the luck.... yeah.... I can probolly say bye to that flowen's sword and evil curst, and I really want one of those now for my force, oh well, I'll learn from my mistakes: keep space for luck!
EDIT: actually, screw the luck! I'm fine for criticla hits and that's mean about Sanga Jarlly!
HUmar - Teh EkwEE - 26-04-2005
Criticals aren't really all important. Yes, they can do quite the damage, and the criticals knock monsters back even on a normal hit, but 100% lck isn't needed. As most people don't play with it it shouldn't mattter. Luck is useless on the two Newmen FO's anyway. FOmars and FOmarls should have 100 anyway because of their reduced combat ability, even with the S/D J/Z my FOmarl lacks horribly in animations, 100% lck would help out with the knock back.
And HUmars become greatly suckish-ing around lv.40 too long to level, crappy stats, n00b 133t h4x0r character, for the most part crappy looks. What's there to love? Nothing, they aren't specialty characters, they don't really even make decent, balanced characters. They just plain suck....
HUmar - Sonic Saturn - 26-04-2005
see Snaga! the evidence is mounting, but I don't actually agree that they suck full stop, they just suck after a point. and Kefka hasn't made a huge a point yet....
HUmar - Sanga - 26-04-2005
listen teh EKwEE humars are just as good as any other class
so jj just drop it jarl ur evidence is totally inaccurate and u would say Hunewhearls are not as bad as Humars because of the plain fact tht u have a hunewhearl and it is a conspiracy and they don not have the decent hunter stats like atp ata and hpMIND IS NOT NEEDED! u should be strong enought to hack the enermies to bits that is the beauty of being a hunter!
u just use spells coz u r not strong enough Who cares about mind unless u r a force! so leave off HUmars or the thread will be closed !!
HUmar - zero132132 - 26-04-2005
Believe mind makes a huge difference when you are playing. Because of my Ramar's shifta, his attack is as good as my HUcast's. Mind makes a huge difference with melee because of the support techs.
HUmar - Teh EkwEE - 26-04-2005
I wouldn't say as good as any HUcast....... -.- but most at your level, and you having lv.15 Shifta.
Layoff, you dare tell me that? I am not dogging on them whatsoever. EVERYclass is better than the HUmar. They have nothing good about them. A HUcaseal can easily keep up with their 'hacking' ability and they can do it better. HUmars have nothing to distinguish them. They don't have great Ata. Their max is one more of the HUnewearls, but with S/D J/Z lv.20 on a HUney that isn't going to matter at all. They have a good saber animation, partisan, double swords, But the females have the best Twin Saber, Sword, Dagger. Those are all that matter to myself. And if you want a male who can 'hack and slash' go with a HUcast. As far as techs go, if you have no one to play with then go with a RAmar, at least they have the greatest ATA potential of the game, and have S/D. HUmars can't support at all, can't melee alone (offline maybe), can't dishout sufficient damage in comparison to HUnewearls with S/D J/Z or the HUcast, don't have the ATA or EVP of the HUcaseal. If you want a character a thousand times better than a HUmar go with a FOmar. Or if HUs go with the HUnewearl, or HUcaseal(I like them aesthetically, and they have power,not as much as HUcast but more than HUmar). HUmar is worse in every way.......they are just plain.....and a pain in the ass to level....
HUmar - zero132132 - 26-04-2005
I would tend to agree. HUmar's are just a pain to play with. The only thing that distinguishes them is that they are male hunters who can use techs. If the sex of the character makes that much of a difference, then that's what you go with. If not, then go with any other hunter.
HUmar - Wootem Ace - 27-04-2005
Most people just think they look cool (IE me) but then find out of their incredibly suckiness (IE me)
HUmar - Fabo Craven - 27-04-2005
wow bad luck. dont go by looks alone