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Mags, Mags, Mags, but which Mag? - Sebastian - 21-08-2005
Jimbo1990 Wrote:I've had Rati at LEAST 4 times and i'm a bit fed up with it so i'm aiming for Rukmin is that good or bad?
woot rukmins are teh snit! my fomar has a rucky and its light green, it looks kinda cool but it never seems to do anything... :/
Mags, Mags, Mags, but which Mag? - Jimbo1990 - 21-08-2005
I've finally maxed my Soniti (def 25 pow 19mind 10 and dex 114!!!) how is that for a great legit ranger mag?
Mags, Mags, Mags, but which Mag? - Phantom_RAcast - 21-08-2005
I wont lie. Thats pretty awful.
- To much def on it
- Not enough pow
- Eww mind..
- Way to much dex!
Mags, Mags, Mags, but which Mag? - Sebastian - 21-08-2005
whoa jimbo, i guess its fine if you like it but dang, rangers only need like 20 or less dex imo because dex isnt a problem with rangers. and you need tons more pow i know a rfamar that basiclly did that and he came into a hard game with me humar and he only did like 36 damage while i was doing like 300-400 damage and he thought they was supposed to be that weak but i saw other ramars that do a decent 100 >.>
Mags, Mags, Mags, but which Mag? - A.S. - 21-08-2005
Sebastian Wrote:whoa jimbo, i guess its fine if you like it but dang, rangers only need like 20 or less dex imo because dex isnt a problem with rangers. and you need tons more pow i know a rfamar that basiclly did that and he came into a hard game with me humar and he only did like 36 damage while i was doing like 300-400 damage and he thought they was supposed to be that weak but i saw other ramars that do a decent 100 >.>
You have absolutely no knowledge on how to make a Ranger do you ?
Rangers aren't very powerful in the beginning, later on in Ultimate, you clearly see Rangers rape Hunters, and see every class excell past a HUmar..
5/125/70/0 RAmar
5/145/50/0 RAcast (I prefer 5/125/70/0 considering RAcast ATA growth)
5/100/60/35 RAmarl (this should be your Online mag, use proper mat usage and it should be 5/145/50/0, I use a mixture)
5/145/50/0, RAcasael, I actually am not 100% sure about this
Mags, Mags, Mags, but which Mag? - Sebastian - 21-08-2005
-_- not every class beats humar. fomarl: stats worse, less def, cant deal as much damage. fomar: only better in support, stats are much worse. and hucaseal: weak as sin, lower def (me think).
and even if i am flamed and disaggreed, i dont care. humars are still good to me.
and rangers are lazy bastards dude. i dont care if they "rape" hunters they are so lazy unless they decide to stop being wimps and melle they stand back pull out a shot and the party begins. i dont care. they are clearly for begingers.yes their weps are better than hunters and yes every ranger is better than humar. but i didnt play this game to be the best class and totally demolish everything and be a speed demon. i played this game becauase it was a good looking game where you could pick a character out of 12 and play the game how you like. with whatever character you like. and i just happen to like humar. go head call me a noob and make fun of "noobmars" and how overpopulated they are. i like them. and a lot of beginners like them. so what.
and no i do not know how to make a ranger mag and i only picked a ranger once and only got him to 22, dead hated him. and i never said i was right that was just a reccomendation of how id make my ranger mag if i had one. they have lots of dex. then id feed there weak asses power.
Mags, Mags, Mags, but which Mag? - A.S. - 21-08-2005
FOmarls suck, they however have the highest DEF on Forces. HUcasael suck as well, their ATP is actually decent for Hunters (96 ATP under HUmar, HUcasael have 18 more ATA, and have ability to use traps, making better then HUmars).
Kefka Wrote:1- RAmarl: can do everything, and do it well, can use the best weapons in the game, proficient with techniques, best solo char, average HP, high DFP, very high ATA, best EVP.
2- HUcast: 1639 ATP, other hunters pale in comparison. Average ATA, but excellent DFP and HP, and the best trap growth -- the God hunter.
3- FOnewearl: scorches offline mode, best support char, what a force is supposed to be. Megid > Ep2.
4- RAcast: a ranger that has hunter-like ATP can only be good.
5- HUnewearl: arguably best offline hunter (HUcast if you really like traps instead of techs), proficient with techniques. Average HP and ATA but has very good DFP, MST and EVP. Her ghetto FO abilities make up for her lack of efficiency in a team in tough areas.
6- FOnewm: Excellent offline, but not better than FOnewearl, falls behind her because of lack of support capacities. His average melee skills are worthwhile thanks to his 2nd best ATA of the FO class. Also 2nd best MST.
7- RAcaseal: Weak and no techs, her highest DFP is a waste, she is not a melee char. Her strong points are her HP and weapons she can use.
8- FOmar: Surprising char... excels in nothing, has lousy HP and DFP, average supporter too, and worst ATA of the game, yet can... surprise you. Not a bad tech caster.
9- HUcaseal: HUcast-- or RAcast-- up to you. She has excellent ATA for a hunter at higher levels, but it will never make up for her lack of ATP. EVP is not very useful when meleeing, and her DFP and HP are barely above average. Crappy trap growth.
10- FOmarl: Has good stats but uber crappy animations with over 80% of the weapons she can use. Good supporter thanks to double Resta, Anti, Shifta and Deband range, but low MST for a force. Best HP and DFP of the forces, but her animations along with her ATA kill her.
11- RAmar: Good char, but... anything he can do, RAmarl does better, so why bother ?
12- HUmar: Simply sucks, barely average at soloing and is more a deadweight than anything to a team, balanced stats, balanced grwoth, bleh.
Mags, Mags, Mags, but which Mag? - Sebastian - 21-08-2005
-_- i dont believe how much people kiss ass to kefka. (no offense kefka). sure he has a lvl 200 (or more not sure), but i would listen to every last bit of info he said was right. hucaseal ability to use traps and 16 more ata dont mkae them better. wohoo 16 more ata. and traps are crap compared to how useful techs are. resta, j/z, ryuker. all good. and all imo more useful than traps the only trap i find the least bit useful is the freeze trap but most hucls and hucasts are so lazy and so nooby they dont use them. and fomarls have better def than humar. thats it. fomar, yes, i spose they are better. but i still know for sure humars are not the worst class. if they were so god terrible omg how nooby crap crap crap then why would a heck a lot of people think they are not the worst class it seems that only people on ragol.co.uk think that think they are the worst but nearly everybody else thinks they are decent that i talked to at least. and i dont care what you say. like i said last time i didnt play the game to be zooming through and taking lvl 200's advice on if i dont pick this char i suck and im a loser noob. and all the stereo types saying "OMG you have to do this and this and this and this to be a good force" . i play this game to be who i want to be even if they are noobs and are way down there in ratings.
Mags, Mags, Mags, but which Mag? - Phantom_RAcast - 21-08-2005
16 ata can make the world of difference actually. Yes techs are usefull, but so are traps. As for the "most hucls and hucasts are so lazy and so nooby" theres always gonna be noobs no reason to let them bring the class down. The people that think humars are good simply havent seen a good setup on other classes. "OMG you have to do this and this and this and this to be a good force" play however you like, doesnt change the fact certain things are expected of FO's, but really I encourage you to play how you want.
Mags, Mags, Mags, but which Mag? - Sebastian - 21-08-2005
they are expected of fos. but they can still be better than a force that meets the expectations without meeting the expectations. and i dont think humars are "good" i know they are down there but i dont know why people have to compare chars so much. like omg hucaseals are better than humars because of 16 ata and traps. so, traps are usefulish techs are useful. it evens out it just that fools cant pull their heads out of their stereotypical asses and open their eyes and instead of saying blank is better than blank in 2 things they are both nearly equally as good, and i said nearly not are. blank1 might be beter than blank here but blank is better than blank1 here and there but blank 1 is better than them there. it evens out.
for example: (im not reading off of stat charts but bear with me hear theyre rough hypothesisis.)
def: humars>hucaseals
ata: humars<hucaseals
atp: humars>hucaseals
mst: techs>traps
evp: hucaseals>humars
hp: humars>hucaseals (dunno all i know is hucaseals have low hp for droids)
tp: out of the question
weps: same
natural abilities: hucaseal>humar
now count em up. lets see... humars:4 hucaseals:3. see? hucaseals have more ata which is important, but i said they are pretty much evened out and dead equal. so there ya have it folks.
not please can we get back on topic to mags?