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im proving a point dont bite my f**king head off - Scott Bull - 29-05-2005
Faulkie Wrote:I know, they're juust plain pathetic - thinking that hacking into a game will bring them respect...
I just laugh at them, then I stop when I realise that were less fortunate than I am, being as I have a brain....
And I know what a hacker is, being as I use to be one, and I seriously doubt your friends are hacking into government files or anything like that, making kiddy AR codes and sending a virus in an e-mail attachment is common knowledge now.
I remember from my days, when people found out from me how easy it was to hack most OS systems, their opinion of me dropped like a lead weight.
That and I still live with my parent, just I spend most of the time at a studio and ironically have my Dad asking if he can borrow my cars, lol.
im proving a point dont bite my f**king head off - Kashima - 29-05-2005
no none of them are hacking government files but i doubt any hacker who was good enough to would go around advertising as much to the general public friends or otherwise. Im just saying instead of attacking hackers and trying to delve into the minds and finding reasons for why they hackwhy not try to persuade them not to corrupt normal players instead. Hatred breeds hatred and lets be honest the hackers have the advantage over us normal players so why give them incentive to screw us over scott?
im proving a point dont bite my f**king head off - MrB - 30-05-2005
Scott Bull Wrote:Yeah right, that'd involve them getting off their a*ses and doing something.
They don't care about PSO:BB they just care about your £5.99 a month, I bet it strained their wallets when they gave me 2 days free when they smegged up my HL renewal.
PSO5/PSU will be hacked even before release by these kids who live in their parents basements who can't get a girlfriend/boyfriend to save their life, thinking that internet rep is worth a damn.
All these people who are changing from PSO to PSO:BB thinking it'll be safer are fools, that and the worst that can happen on GC version is memory card corruption, as opposed to your entire hard-drive, (it's only a matter of time folks).
Sega are selling the same sh*t in a different package, and nearly everyone is falling for it, (even after 5 years I can't see any graphical improvements).
I agree. And well said, hehe.
im proving a point dont bite my f**king head off - mr_shoe_uk - 30-05-2005
Well personally, I think that the game is fun enough, with enough new features to warrant me playing it!
im proving a point dont bite my f**king head off - Scott Bull - 30-05-2005
Kashima Wrote:no none of them are hacking government files but i doubt any hacker who was good enough to would go around advertising as much to the general public friends or otherwise. Im just saying instead of attacking hackers and trying to delve into the minds and finding reasons for why they hackwhy not try to persuade them not to corrupt normal players instead. Hatred breeds hatred and lets be honest the hackers have the advantage over us normal players so why give them incentive to screw us over scott?
They are not better than us, that's the false sense of superiority that you're feeding them that makes them keep doing it, if you didn't wow at them, they wouldn't do it as much, I know that I am better than them, I could easily screw their computers in, but I dont, because:
1. It's just a game.
2. It's not worth the effort.
3. I have integrety.
4. I have respect for the game, it's designers, (barely), and it's players.
5. I'm loaded.
I studied hard for over 17 years to become as successful as I am today, how helpful will being able to hack a game look, saying "I can hack PSO with an AR" doesn't look that good on a CV, though since most of them fail school anyhow, it's a good thing McDonalds accept people without qualifications.
As long as you keep butt kissing these people, they will keep doing this stuff.
That, and no game will be hack proof, there will always be people exploiting loopholes and bug issues, rather then reporting it.
im proving a point dont bite my f**king head off - Phantom_RAcast - 30-05-2005
They do kinda have an advantage, I mean they can corrupt us and we cant corrupt them, and god.. could you be anymore arrogant?
im proving a point dont bite my f**king head off - Anti Hacker - 31-05-2005
Scott I wasn't talking about Character data when I was talking about the DPA, I was talking about credit card details and as I am taking an A-level in ICT I do know a bit about the laws of data, so it's not a law degree but im no fool. And I don't want to think its a better game, it is! I have played it and it is 10 times the game GC PSO ever was online, when Ep.4 comes out it will be great. I have already listed many of the new features of PSO:BB and they are being added to, take a look at my list and you will see it is not the same game. An effort is being made this time, and what is similar is because people like te game the way it was. They are trying to find a way to put in new features yet keep the same gameplay, and I have to say they are succeeding.
im proving a point dont bite my f**king head off - God-IX - 31-05-2005
I think Kashima is right...if you read..Scott...he said NORMAL players...and from what your talking about..claiming to be a hacker....then your one of them...further proving Kashimas point..
im proving a point dont bite my f**king head off - Scott Bull - 31-05-2005
Anti Hacker Wrote:Scott I wasn't talking about Character data when I was talking about the DPA.
The DPA wouldn't be concerned in this case, as the data for buying the HL itself is not stored on the same servers, or the game data itself, there are a few hair-thin laws regulating it in regards to the Consumer Products/Goods act and the Fair Trades Act are concerned, but these are very tangeable and hard to varify in a case such as this.
The DPA is generally only used for personal details regarding a person themselves, so if they asked for your nationality, then publicly released it along with your name to a global market, then it's an infringment of the DPA, (eg. if they said 30% of PSO players were Asian, then gave their names, that'd be illegal), however, if they only gave the details, such as the 30%, but not the names, then it's legal.
Since the bank details are stored on regular PC server, this is even more proof that PSO:BB is even worse, with BB, they will be able to get the details while playing the game, you can't hack a bank account using an AR.
People can hack your game data, your PC and your bank details, all on 1 PC, the worst they can do on GC/XB/DC is hack the character data.
Not that it'd bother me either way, I'm one of these people that'll insure everything close to their heart, including all of my bank accounts, cards, and chequebooks.
God-IX Wrote:I think Kashima is right...if you read..Scott...he said NORMAL players...and from what your talking about..claiming to be a hacker....then your one of them...further proving Kashimas point.
And it's normal players who hack who claim they can hack, I've never hacked PSO or anything for trivial reasons, putting egg on your face.
And Anti, as for it being a better game, it isn't when you get BSOD or something on BB and start whinging about it saying how great PSO5/PSU will be, this will further be prooving my point, keep in mind you told me you left PSO on GC because of this.
Keep in mind, they could hack your entire HD and they can do more than £15 worth of damage, I hope that this doesn't happen to you, but if it does, I'll buy you a new computer with my smug grin on it, knowing that in this case, you can get hacked on a PC not on a GC.
That and the graphics are the same, and you instantly know the GC version will work when you put it in your GC, unlike with PC games, having specs, recommended specs, equivilent specs and all that rubbish, (though I seriously doubt theres a piece of software on this planet my network couldn't run).
Only a fool will play BB and think they're any safer.
It may be a better game for the new button configuration and PSO4, yes, I can admit to that, but I can also admit it has many more security flaws too.
Speaking of button configuration, I wish ASCII/SAMMY users were able to re-configure the game to allow for 12 hot-keyed actions on PSO1/2 and possibly even for PSO3.
im proving a point dont bite my f**king head off - Anti Hacker - 31-05-2005
It doesn't matter which server the details are on, the Registrar still must have proof that SEGA will keep the data subjects (our) personal data safe. They are liable if they do not. SEGA would still own the seperate server, and even if they did not whoever did would be liable. Since I do not own this server, I am not liable.