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Hackers, a definition - Legato2471 - 07-07-2005
-_- make your mind up lol. An AR user is a cracker right? Hackers can actually stop people with AR and other proxies. I suppose they could be a white hat hacker but most of them are script kiddies
Hackers, a definition - Anti Hacker - 07-07-2005
Make my mind up? I have always viewed AR users as hackers, lesser hackers but hackers none the less!
Look guys, I want to clear this whole AR user thing up to so:
Definition of hacker:
Originally, a hacker was someone who made furniture with an axe. In computing slang it is a person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. Also, one who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming.
(you can stretch the capabilities of PSO with an AR, if only to a lesser extent)
Definition of hacker 2:
Unauthorized user who attempts to or gains access to an information system and the data it supports.
(PSO is the 'system' in this case, using an AR you can access restricted data)
Now Legato, here is the term you need to learn
Definition of Cracker:
A cracker is one who engages in one or more of the following: 1) breaks into a computer system; 2) figures out ways to bypass security or license protection in software; 3) intentionally breaches computer security. Contrary to popular belief, Cracker is not synonymous with Hacker.
Definition of Cracker 2:
A person who illegally gains access to someone else's computer. The term hacker is used incorrectly to mean what a cracker does.
Definition of Cracker 3:
A malicious hacker.
From all of this we can easily see that a 'script kiddie' in fact IS a lesser hacker!
Hackers, a definition - Lee Xao Vue - 07-07-2005
so
its like
script kiddy is like small threat and cracker is most thread and hacker is middle? or something like that then anti? im so lost now .....whats supposed to be the worst and most fearful and whats the less fearful ones thats what i lost at with all these names for what they do lol
Hackers, a definition - Anti Hacker - 07-07-2005
Script kiddies are hackers, but less dangerous ones, crackers are potentially very dangerous.
Hackers, a definition - Lee Xao Vue - 08-07-2005
oo ok, i just didnt get the technical names for em k thx anti
Hackers, a definition - Archer - 13-08-2005
lol, I kind of feel bad for saying the things I said in another post because they were too general at times and not specific, but I still stand by my opinion. Anyways, you all know it.
Hackers, a definition - Anti Hacker - 22-08-2005
Well play the game however you feel happy playing it. For me, thats legit. But people should not come online to ruin others gaming experience, especially with harmful codes!
Hackers, a definition - Scott Bull - 25-10-2005
People who dupe for "back-up" I consider to be Quasi-Legit, I've lot really rare items due to FSOD and not whinged about it, but then again, I'm 21, and just play it as a game, and realise a weapon is just a bit of coding.
I think people who dupe for this should be classified as Quasi-Legit, as I do not consider myself the same as them, it's degrading myself in essence, that's like saying I have total respect for artists when I copy a CD, I never state that, though I will never copy a CD of a artist I really admire, such as Bon Jovi, so I consider people who never burn a CD better than me, (even though there are loopholes that make it legal, I don't make out that I'm bigger than I am or anything).
Also, what about people who use anti-FSOD codes on AR, are they still hackers and less respectful than a legit, if d*ck-wads didn't FSOD, there would be no need for anti-codes, by definition, these people would fall into the legit catagory, because they're protecting themselves, (as duping weapons for "back-up"), because some people don't respect others onling gaming enjoyment.
Hackers, a definition - Forcemaster - 03-01-2006
I personally do not consiter the people who make backups of their weapons "hackers" "AR Users" or "Script Kiddies," in fact I am ok with most cheating, as long as it doesn't affect the other players - if you have a Dark Bridge it is only hurting you, it doesn't hurt other players. If you want to screw up your own game go right ahead, just leave mine alone
Hackers, a definition - Scott Bull - 10-01-2006
I do on the fact that it's still exploiting a bug, but accept that it's impossible to reason with those who value the possossesion of a fictional weapon so much, I've lost weps, sometimes through the Sega servers crashing or DC'ing me, and I just think, "meh, just a game", and go back online, I will socialiise with people and see if they have a replacement for trade, and this way I meet more users of PSO, if anything, it's sort of like a blessing in disguise.
I'm OK with cheating, as long as it's strictly offline, and if taken online, that it doesn't affect other's enjoyment of the game.
Incidently, for anyone who plays TS3 on PS2, there is a person called SnaBo who cheated himself to Rank 1, (I won't say how, but it isn't actually a cheat, just a very cheap tactic, though the person does cheat too), if duping to back-up is legit, how this guy got to rank 1 is legit, either way, I don't care about PSO weps, or rank 1 on TS3, because to me, they are just games.
Though the fact people do protest when others say duping to back-up ain't legit seems to make me feel as though they have a guilty conscience, again, not that I care either way.