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Attack accuracy, ATA; hit percentages - Mirinee - 24-11-2004
I have some questions about the game mechanics.
Just what is the attack accuracy? The most easily noticeable thing about it is that you need it to be high enough to be able to use certain weapons, and, I'm also guessing that it is related to your weapon hit percentage? I know that it is unrelated with how much damage you deal (that's ATP).
How does that work quantitatively? How do you check for your overall hit percentage? Is it possible to get 100% hit just with high ATA? How does a weapon with hit percentage work?
Another thing is, how does ATA relate to magical attacks? Although how much damage done by a physical and magical attack are governed by separate stats (ATP, MST respectively), I would assume that the hit % of physical and magic attacks are the same. Am I close?
Thanks for any help.
Attack accuracy, ATA; hit percentages - DarkMagician - 25-11-2004
ATA doesn't affect magic AT ALL!
Attack accuracy, ATA; hit percentages - Mirinee - 25-11-2004
Really? So magic (apart from megid) never misses as long as the monster/s is/are in range? That's great!
...But seeing that it's you... I'd love to believe you... beh. I will. It saves bother.
Attack accuracy, ATA; hit percentages - Zal - 25-11-2004
Example.
(While using a wep with 45% hit)
My hunes ATA is 286 (189). -45% the value returns to 230-238 or so. The value outside the brackets matters most, and your weapon acc determines how high this will be. Hit% is a bonus if you think about it. I never found a weap with ANY % higher than 50%.
Hit percentage has great influence on how often you hit with a special attack. And even greater influence on how often you hit over all. In episode II, don't even bother if you dont have acc(value outside the brackets) over 240.
ATA has no relation to tech attacks. Megid's chance of killing is based on a formula. The lv of the spell coupled with what I think the amount of resistance of the monster you're using it against determines the chance. <--That is a guess though. It would be nice if ATA affected megid. LOL
Attack accuracy, ATA; hit percentages - Mirinee - 25-11-2004
*Pulls out calculator*
But after -45%, the value outside the brackets should then become
(100-45)% x 286 = 157.3
You're not being clear where the other 70ish or so come from. Please clarify.
What IS the marked hit %? If a weapon says 45% hit, it most certainly doesn't mean that it only hits 45% of the time! Then weapons with 0% would never hit.
I presume you would have an overall true hit percentage calculated for you, but not displayed for you.
Restatement of the question in a more mathematical way:
(Relating to physical attacks only)
Your true hit percentage has to be a function of the weapon's marked hit % (e.g. 45%) and your ATA (base+weapon ATA bonus).
i.e. TrueHit%(Hit%, ATA)
It doesn't seem to be a straightforward addition either, because if your TrueHit% is already high (maybe boosted by your ATA), e.g. 60%, and then you equip your weapon with +45%, that would give over 100% which is also not right!
And just stick to normal attacks for the time being as not to overcomplicate things.
Anyone know?
Attack accuracy, ATA; hit percentages - Krato - 26-11-2004
in my experience the hit % on a wepon adds the same amount onto ata
example
character with 150 base ata equips a weapon with 50% hit ata rises to 200 plus whatever the wepon puts it up.
Attack accuracy, ATA; hit percentages - Zal - 26-11-2004
Mirinee, you seem to have answered your own question. And my post was merely rough speculation, and those values were pulled from my memory(Im too lazy to look at her exact stats). The value remaining on my hune is 220(when I finally looked
). The value with the hit is not 286 cause of the 45 hit alone.The weapon is Sange and Yasha. Couple the natural weapon accuracy value with the 45% and you'll get the value I suppose.
Attack accuracy, ATA; hit percentages - ShadowNinja X7 - 26-11-2004
I think thay way that it works is whatever the hit % is, it adds that number onto your total ata. (outside the brackets) So if your ata WITH a weapon is 250, and the weapon has 50% hit, then your ata will increase to 300.
Attack accuracy, ATA; hit percentages - Mirinee - 28-11-2004
Aha. So 1hit% = 1ATA. Thanks. Now I know how ATA stat works. The ATA stat displayed to you is:
Character's base ATA + Mag ATA boost + Weapon ATA boost + Weapon hit%
(Where 1 DEX = 0.5 ATA from the Mag and 1hit% = 1ATA)
That cleared up the doubt about Hit%.
True attack accuracy(not the stat) is a function of ATA (which is defined above) and enemy's evade stat. I'm not going to ask for the formula any more, as it doesn't seem to be easy to obtain without hacking into the game itself. Nobody knows for sure and that's what makes it fun
.
Attack accuracy, ATA; hit percentages - DarkMagician - 01-12-2004
It makes little difference to a mage anyway...