broomop exposed as fake

[Serpent7]

I don't know where you got that perception from, but hackers (though not script kiddies) are actually normally quite smart. :>

[SilentShadow13]

I deal with them all the time, they're retarded. they call legit players noobs because we actually know how to play the game.

[Phantom_RAcast]

I deal with them all the time, they're retarded. they call legit players noobs because we actually know how to play the game.

What you're thinking of is not a hacker. Hackers simply explore, and see what they can do with a piece of software. They are not stupid in any sense.
AR users on a video game are not hackers.

[Anti Hacker]

Hey broomop, why dont you learn how to spell and then learn how to play the game legitly.

I shall play legit! I started out hacked, but then learned what the difference is. the real problem with hacking is that players who just got the game and dont know anything get hacked stuff handed to them. Its force fed to everyone and then they can't play winthout dooing 2000 damage at LV. 5. If you want to play hacked, fine. I wont support you or even talk to you, but just leave the noobs alone, let them make their own choices. If they want to be hacked, they will be hacked, if they want to be legit, they will be legit.

And xbox is not as screwed as you all seem to think. Only Appatite is truly hacked. There are hidden legit comunities in... other places...

I have made a list of the different classifications of player:
They are organized from those worthy of respect to those who should not be spoken to.

Okay, firstly, some people grammar might not be as good as others for valid reasons and nagging on at people about it isn't getting you any brownie points m'kay?

If broomop doesn't want to play legit, then that's his choice. From what I know, broomop also played legit for a fair amount of time before becoming bored with what could be obtained legitly.

It is true that many newbie players become non-legit without knowing it, but it is also true that far more newbies do know what they're getting themselves into.

You don't seem to understand (many of you) what hacking actually is. Being given a weapon that is a dupe, does not make you hacked. It makes you un-legit.

Hacking is gaining access to part of a structure (in this case PSO) which is usually not allowed to be accessed because security measures are in place in whichever doorway you try to enter to achieve your personal goal. So, from this we know that:

Duping and stackinhg (both types) are not hacking because ST failed to implement security measures effectively in both those places. However, they are cheating and not legit.

"Script kiddies" are hackers whether you like it or not, they may be stupid ones who don't know what they're doing but they use coding to access areas of the game otherwise prohibited (even if they didnt create the coding) that do bypass ST security measures (the game is recoded at boot) and therefore there is no distinction between hacker and script kiddie. A script kiddies is one of many small sects of the generic term, hacker.

Hackee -- (Derived from the "employee" and "employer" relationship.) Hackee's use hacked items. They do not make them and are generally stupid teenagers. AVOID AT ALL TIMES
Hacker -- Makes the hacked item that are then used by hackee's. They are generally moronic teenagers that (Following data has been blocked.) AVOID AT ALL COSTS, TO NOT SPEAK TO OR INTERACT WITH HACKERS AT ANY TIME.

Often hackers and people who use hacked items are really freindly, or so I find. And quite intelligent to. They're just bored with what regular play offers.
Do not avoid them at all costs, that just makes you look like an antisocial 'n00b' which is probably why you say;

I deal with them all the time, they're retarded. they call legit players noobs because we actually know how to play the game.

^ They're probably calling you a n00b because you're so hellbent of avoiding them, and they actually most often know how to play the game well too. They just got bored with it. They are not retarded, not all of them (sure some are) but you generalise so much your arguement is retarded. In fact most of the time I play online if they use a dark flow or something that clears rooms in a single hit I just ask them if they could please use a legit weapon. Most of the time, they say that's fine .

Try to break down the hacker group not by what they do but by what their intentions are!

e.g.

Black hat hacker - Evil FSOD/Xers. You need to avoid these.

Gray hat hacker - May FSOD you, if you really annoy them. Sometimes give out helpful protective codes to the community, a bit of a mixture.

White hat hacker - Uses hacking for the sole purpose of creating protective codes for the community, sadly, few of these exist.


^ So I hope this clears things up for everyone. Now, lets all stop jumping down non-legit players throats on this site and actually ask ourselves if they deserve it first.

[colohue]

First off, the difference is that ST has given up on Europe in my experience, but they still quite carefully look after the much more legit Japanese community. If you read again with this in mind you'll probably see what I mean. The Japanese community is not sour, YET.

You've labelled hackers and dupers without actually knowing anything other than hearsay silent shadow. Generally in my experience, hackers and dupers are doing one of two things.

1. Trying to make the game more interesting by giving themselves something else to do.

2. Trying to make a game that is more advantageous to them. These people tend to get bored as soon as they realise that they have everything, at which point they either turn legit and play honestly, quit claiming to have "beaten the game" or turn into a number 1.

But I agree that you need to know the difference between hackers and dupers. It takes a good deal of intelligence to adapt a code to a game and then alter the existing one without doing major damage to it. Hackers are generally very intelligent people who don't want to play the game ST made for them. They think they can make it better with a few differences. This is why I do not like them. ST made the game and ST police the game. If they do not want to play the game ST made then they shouldn't. Instead they choose to alter it, having a serious affect on other players.

A lot of new players become illegit very easily, this is true. I am glad that I was forewarned by Poo_Fly about the community before I stepped into it playing on his BB account. Generally I wouldn't have fallen for it anyway. If a player has any experience in online gaming then they are aware of dupes and hacks. Like it or not.

I like what you say about "Hacker" and "Hackee" however, and think you have a valid point there. There are those who hack and there are those who simply benefit from Hackers. I think the Hackees are the worst personally. :'(

[Lokin Modar]

I consider myself a duper since I've duped some weps from my brothers and I duped some of mine for them 2. But what concearns me is: Will I have some side FX on my char if I have some duped items, even though i can't go online 'cos I don't have a BBA? In fact I don't like hackers. When I used to play on DC my char got screwed because of them....

[Phantom_RAcast]

I consider myself a duper since I've duped some weps from my brothers and I duped some of mine for them 2. But what concearns me is: Will I have some side FX on my char if I have some duped items, even though i can't go online 'cos I don't have a BBA? In fact I don't like hackers. When I used to play on DC my char got screwed because of them....

No, there wont be any side effects to dupes.