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Hackers, a definition
#1
I have noticed many threads popping up stating "hackers suck" and "why hack?" and "why pay money to screw up other peoples games?" so I thought I would clear up the definition of a hacker and tell you all what they really are and what they actually do.

The definition of a hacker is someone who gains un-authorised access to data, e.g. if you log on to somone's computer by accurately guessing their password you are a hacker.

Many of you seem to think hackers all spend hours coding and illigally modifying data just to annoy you, this is not the case. If we take my definition of hacker, we can see it does not contain anything that means you have to screw around with other peoples data to annoy them.

So, how do we apply this definition of hacking to Phantasy Star Online? They must gain access to restricted data, an Action Replay can do this extremely well. For example, gaining access to an NPC classes as restricted data, because it is an infringement to Sonic Team to use these copyrighted characters withought having a legitimate way of doing it, it is a further violation to use such a 'hacked privilage' online.
Technically, you could hack PSO by guessing the password to somones Hunters Lisence account. So you see, coding (or using an Action Replay) really is not a necessary part of being a hacker, and neither is messing up other peoples save files!

That is closer to being a 'Cracker' and even they do not have to damage others whilst in play.

There are many people out there who hack simply because it gives the game more playability for them. You might say "I have hacked and it makes it more boring for me!" but that is just a generalisation that assumes everyone finds hacking as boring as you do. Just because you dont like strawberries doesnt mean other people dont, other people are not you! We have to accept when playing online that there are a number of individuals who have different ideas of fun to ourselves, if you dont like their style then go somewhere else.

Yes, people who harm games are hackers/crackers but not all hackers/crackers can or will harm you! So you see, there really is nothing to cause you to say "All hackers suck!" as some are very nice people. A more correct phrase would be "That guy who hacked me and corrupted me, he sucks!" but not all hackers are like that and I cannot stress this enough, so please... I never thought I'd be the one to say this (*points to name*) but -
please stop flaming people just because they hack!

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Additional Information Provided By Legato2471:

Legits - People who play the game with no use of hacked, duped or stacked items. Some dupe so they can have back ups of rare items incase of FSOD.

AR users - Players who use Action Replay. A cheating device that edits the hex memory of the game file allowing users to gain access to many things legit players cannot get. These things include fast leveling, rare items, becoming an NPC like Sonic, swearing, and even FSOD. Some players admit they use AR and got codes from the internet, other people, FSOD noobs think they are real hackers. That's only true if they made the codes themselves.

Script Kiddie - The majority of Action Replay users fall into this catagory. These are people who use codes and cheating devices without any knowledge on how they work, or how to make codes.

Hackers - They can be catagorized in the same way that computer hackers can. Black hat, white hat, and grey hat. First, hackers don't use Action Replay, but rather they packet edit and stream edit. This allows them to send commands from client to server which can affect the game in ways that an Action Replay cannot

Black Hat - Hacker who stream or packet edits to do harm to other players. (Lobby Reload, PK, NOL, BSOD etc.)

White Hat - Hacker who uses their programs to help other players or fight the black hat hackers.

Grey Hat - Hacker who does both. They can harm or help players depending on how they feel. Some Grey hats go on to become Black Hats because it's just easier to harm than help.
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#2
First of all, thankyou, finally we have a hacking/cheating thread with a defined purpose that isn't just a rant. Also, I agree with most of what you've said. However, I'd like to point out that, in my opinion, using an AR with codes produced by someone else is not hacking. That is more commonly referred to as being a Script Kiddie.

You didn't say anything about this, but I want to; not all hackers are bad. Imagine a racist American-Nazism site. Like the KKK site for example. Would I hack that given the chance? Hell yes. So there you go.

Once again, thanks a bunch AH.
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#3
*Applaudes Anti-Hacker*
Thank you, sooo much for finally clearing all this up for other people....
I agree with you, not all hackers are bad....
Perhaps there won't be any flaming in this thread.. I sure hope not...
*Applaudes Anti-Haker once again*
#4
Very nice. Maybe my post on the different types of hackers from the recent thread "Hackers Suck" could be moved into here. Thanks for making a thread like this.
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#5
Thanks for the positive feedback guys, Serpent thankyou for elaborating on some of the points I could have made clearer. Remember, hackers are who we are talking about when we say 'script kiddies' because they are actually a sub-faction of the hacking community (however much you may happen to look down upon them). Some may argue however, that it is the inventor of the code in use activated by the AR who is the real hacker!
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#6
Legato2471 Wrote:Very nice. Maybe my post on the different types of hackers from the recent thread "Hackers Suck" could be moved into here. Thanks for making a thread like this.
You mean the white hat, gray hat, black hat thing...
Yeah, I think you should do that...
#7
Okay, several things here guys:

1. I corrected a select few spelling mistakes in Anti Hacker's original post, because well ... it's me! Tongue

2. I combined Legato2471's information with the original post to make the thread more organized

3. I stickied this thread. It's a gooder. It's information that needs to be known to all, especially newcomers

4. I will, from now on, since this thread is now here, close all threads related to 'how bad hackers are', etc. and any posts with opinions such as those must be made in this thread

5. This thread will not become a flame-war. Why? Because I will not allow it to. This is how it will work for offenders in this thread, should they choose to act up:
  • Warning of user, possible edit of post if it contains nasty content<<
  • Additional warning of user, probable deletion of post<<
  • Finally, most likely a referral for a temporary/permanent ban, depending on the offense<<
* These user offense guidelines for this thread are subject to change, but likely not.

Have fun!
#8
Heh I didnt think this would become a sticky but thanks anyway staff!
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#9
Yes well, I thought it was well said and was probably deserving of Stickiness action. You're welcome.
#10
Thank you Anti, Hopefully will will have no flamewars, and no "I hate Hackers" posts. You are a saint for takeing your time and typeing all this. YOU FOREVER HAVE CHANGED THIS FOURM! My hat is off to yo Anti-Hacker. GREAT JOB!Wink


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