BB vs v3

[jarl]

even so, good luck hunting a nug with hit to proove its not from DDwBP.

'LIKEWOA!! NUG 2K!!'
'.....?'
'BE HAPPY FOR ME!! I HAV TEH UBR RARE!!'
'o rly?'
'YA Rl...... wait, what am i saying??'
'u sukzorz'

[Poo Fly]

doesnt matter, all my stuff is pre ddwbp, i know it, and the people i play with do. wonder how easy it'll be to grab these things anyhow. i want my bunny ears.

[NetNomad]

I oughta hunt a NUG on GC by the REAL method it's supposed to be obtained. Just to spite all of the DDwBP players.

(But then, I've already put a Sphere on the one that MoC traded me... hmmm >_>)

[09s]

Nope, check the database here, it is very accurate. I have used a Slicer of Fanatic for months, it has better range, but not by much.

Some people I know said it had rifle range... but thanks for the clear up. It's interesting that some slicers have longer range then other even in GC like the rainbow baton range is slightly longer.

[K_I_R_E_E_K]

Remember EpII was the first time we fought monsters of the same area with different attributes, that's a major improvement from EpI, probably the greatest ever.

Also, GDV and Seabed monsters are very different from EpI monsters in their basic mechanics.
In EpI, Bartle, Barble, Tollaw, Vulmer, GoVulmer, Melqueek, Arlan, Merlan, Del-D all share the same A.I., that's NINE monsters using the same mechanics.
Gillchich and Dubchich share the same A.I., too.

In EpII, even basic monsters behave differently.
Meriltas can counterattack and poison you while Merillia can't.
Ul Gibbon and Zol Gibbon don't spit out the same techniques, and Zol Gibbon can paralyze you.
Dolmdarl can trap you in energy circles, Dolmolm can't.

Not mentioning the other EpII monsters, which use for the vast majority completely new A.I.

The A.I. of EpII monsters is an amazing improvement.


Then comes the setting; most EpI areas are flat, whereas the land in EpII is a lot more interesting, and can be used to your advantage, etc.


Then graphic improvement, increased difficulty, etc.

the criatures of ep1 are like that because of the history, you can't expect robots on the forest.
the land in ep2 is very good, instead of the flat.
criatures like vulmer or arlan are the basic criature of every zone, so it is right if they exist, yes ep2 basic enemys use more abilities, but basic criatures should be basic (my opinion)

[Hrith]

I oughta hunt a NUG on GC by the REAL method it's supposed to be obtained. Just to spite all of the DDwBP players.

It would still be a terrible weapon.

the rainbow baton range is slightly longer.

Are you sure? I never realized that ;s

And slicer with Rifle Range would be soooooooooooo cheap, even for Ep4.

[Poo Fly]

That quest was released overnight, it seems its the "get everything quickly" version. everything on that list has just lost its entire value. my vivienne, parasol, slicer of fanatic, handgun: milla, and tripolic shield are now worthless in most peoples eyes.

oh well. after all its a little chance for some to play around with higher tier stuff before phantasy star universe is released, thats about it really.

EDIT: http://boards.sega.com/psobb/viewforum.php?f=12
just have a look, it'll show you what its done.

[NetNomad]

It would still be a terrible weapon.

If by terrible you mean unable to get ridiculous shares of kills, then ok.

I keep mine around mostly for bosses, or just when I'm playing around in some easy area (or when I enter a room late and want to tag a large group on the other side of the room, quickly :S).

Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that it used to be a hell of a lot rarer on BB, but its style value just dropped to next to nothing.

Buuuuuuuut... it's still rare on GC.

[whiteninja]

If by terrible you mean unable to get ridiculous shares of kills, then ok.

No, he means it's a horrible weapon that serves little purpose. 30 ATA is too low, especially for something that cannot combo, and with that in mind, it's ATP is low too. My sphered Gi Gue Bazooka is not terribly usefull (only on EP2 bosses), and it is stronger than an unsphered Nug.

If you want it just to tag, find a Rafoie tech disk, lv13-15. That would work just as well, if not better, and it does not require endless Mines hunting.

Because of some quests on GC, the value of things has dropped dramatically... Mostly for:
Rainbow Baton
Double Cannon
Heaven Punisher
Snow Queen

But it also applies to many other rare that have just been made exceedingly easy to get by either playing online quests offline (Contradiction, anyone? Who needs Addicting Food when you have Ice Spinner offline? lolq) or by the release of "new quests" (one of which completely shot the previously mentioned items).

Well, I piped my 30h SQ, I didn't pipe my 0/40/0/90/50 R. Baton, and I'm not going to pipe my Heaven Punisher.

[jarl]

If you want it just to tag, find a Rafoie tech disk, lv13-15. That would work just as well, if not better, and it does not require endless Mines hunting.



But it also applies to many other rare that have just been made exceedingly easy to get ... by the release of "new quests"

1 Rafoie doesnt have as much range as the nug/GGB. also, who wouldnt want a GGB? as someone earlier today put it: 'go the flaming spitwad cannon!!!'


2 yeah, especially the ported BB quest. bulclaws and sorcerers where the only enemies unaffected by the online quests going offline, so they ported a BB quest which has stupid amounts of sorcerers and bulclaws >.<