Duping

[Aaron_Blitzmage]

EDIT (decswxaqz): This was part of a conversation taken from another thread. Sorry to aaron making yours the first topic. It seemed the best place to split the thread
http://www.ragol.co.uk/forums/showthread...readid=488

Dupes are not ment to be part of the game. Therefore dupes are bad. You grabbed a copy of PSO and thought "well this looks like fun."
You then get FSOD and you think "Oh no I lost all my stuff!"
But then you find out there is a way to get them back....Exploting the game codes and that is NOT RIGHT! In no way does it say "Look here is how you dupe and ruin the game for Fucking evreybody."
See because all you were all just crying over your loss which is data. Your wills are all to weak and you can't help but think "OMFGZZ U CAN DUPE FOR MEZZZ!!!!!!11111"
If Saga wanted you to dupe they would tell you. But by contributing to dupes is making you one of the twats for ruining the game for evreyone.

God I had to get that off my back.

[decswxaqz]

I second that. Well said Aaron.

[Proj3ct_Zer0]

Originally posted by Aaron_Blitzmage
Dupes are not ment to be part of the game. Therefore dupes are bad. You grabbed a copy of PSO and thought "well this looks like fun."
You then get FSOD and you think "Oh no I lost all my stuff!"
But then you find out there is a way to get them back....Exploting the game codes and that is NOT RIGHT! In no way does it say "Look here is how you dupe and ruin the game for Fucking evreybody."
See because all you were all just crying over your loss which is data. Your wills are all to weak and you can't help but think "OMFGZZ U CAN DUPE FOR MEZZZ!!!!!!11111"
If Saga wanted you to dupe they would tell you. But by contributing to dupes is making you one of the twats for ruining the game for evreyone.

God I had to get that off my back.

Well done, I agree with that. You cant go anywhere without dupes being there. And hell knows if someone saying that the item you traded for the is legit! IT SUCKS!!

[Lee-yoshi]

Its basically wot ive been thinkin all along, except he put it onto the forums in a language everyone can understand!

[Ivan]

Think about it guys! sega practically gave us dupping. Dont you think if they didnt want this to happen ''securrity'' would have been more tight? if last survivors gained hp, then you just multi equip them and quit you do it till you have maxed your hp! Too ez!
and what about shop dupping, Is sega tht retarted to let NPC walk and then have you lead them so you could start the glitch i shop dupping? and what about usb dupping? dont you think they wuld have made pso resistant to usb so you couldnt getn 230 of the same item innmerly seconds?! and dont you think the same couldve been done for multi equiping? oh and about the FSODing I suppose players FSODing people isnt sega's fault either.Say btw about the boss trick, thts pretty ez to bust any day buddy. and what about all those lv 180 mages tht claim to be tht way fair and sqaure, they proboly did the canibin trikk too. why?because sega made tht possible! how do you think the game would not freeze without tht being programed?! Finally the recobox trick, sega never did anything to keep a company from making the turbo button so all youd have to do is leave it there with the x button held down and with expo guns youd level as high as evr the fuck you want! After all of these cheats dont you think its too ez to be lvl 200. Still good old sega huh? Sega has given cheating, its their fault and thts why the game is so fucked up, because they were too damn lazy to keep this from happening!


I appologize if i have crossed the line to disscus cheating, I simply didnt have much else of a choice to put it, the matter is, i was telling you my point, and therfore it has been made.


Thank You

[decswxaqz]

if last survivors gained hp, then you just multi equip them and quit you do it till you have maxed your hp! Too ez!
and what about shop dupping, Is sega tht retarted to let NPC walk and then have you lead them so you could start the glitch i shop dupping?

All are related in a way so I will put them in this one paragraph. How the heck is ST supposed to know that when you do the shop glitch (I would say how to do it to give people an idea of the stupidity of this glitch, but I would be banned), you can do all of the other stuff. There is no way ST could have forseen how people would have found out this glitch. Even after testing the game for months, you have to (coin a phrase from Mercury Rising I think) figure in the "Geek Factor". People will try to break the game and will break any game. It's just a matter of time. I agree, multiequip is a very sloppy coding error that could have been easily avoided. Max stats and duping revolves around the shop glitch when could not have not been forseen. What you don't seem to think, is that the game testers could have found lots of small ways of duping before the game was released and missed this one because it is so obscure.

and what about usb dupping? dont you think they wuld have made pso resistant to usb so you couldnt getn 230 of the same item innmerly seconds?!

There is no way for a program, that is released before a product like the USB memory card is released, is to recognise it. How the hell are ST supposed to know which memory card is which. Even if they released the game AFTER the USB card was released, it would be very hard to tell one from another...if at all. The USB card is supposed and does act like a normal memory card. This would also probably break anti-monopoly rules, because people could only get a Nintendo memory card to play PSO which is wrong.

oh and about the FSODing I suppose players FSODing people isnt sega's fault either.

FSOD is Sega's fault. There is no doubt about that. But what about the software you use to type all these messages. I bet that often breaks. What about other games that you play? I am sure there are glitches and errors on that. With an online game, you get lag, which is why people FSOD I think. The GC doesn't get enough information before it gets to the lobby.

Say btw about the boss trick, thts pretty ez to bust any day buddy. and what about all those lv 180 mages tht claim to be tht way fair and sqaure, they proboly did the canibin trikk too. why?because sega made tht possible!

The boss trick again is a slight sloppy coding error but again, people try to break the game and succeed. Lvl 180 mages are possible if you have the will and determination to play the game properly. Call them "geeks" or "freaks" if you want, but they have the dedication to stick to something, wether legit or not. Personally I have great honour for all the legit high level chars out there. The canabin trick is a by product of piping. ST left in the reset of monsters, so people could see rare monsters more often. How often have you seen a rare enemy just doing a run through a level? Not many I bet. So they left the TP trick so we could get the rares from them.

Finally the recobox trick, sega never did anything to keep a company from making the turbo button so all you have to do is leave it there with the x button held down and with expo guns youd level as high as evr the fuck you want!

Sega or Nintendo can not stop anyone from making products for their system. Again, it's anti-monopoly law. Also, (related to USB memory cards), how is the game supposed to know that you are using a turbo controller? And if you want to level this way, what is the point of playing the game? You have the best weapons, armour, techs, max stats, and a high level. Congratulations, you just made the game pointless to play.

Sega has given cheating, its their fault and thats why the game is so fucked up, because they were too damn lazy to keep this from happening!

Sega has not given us cheating, it's the idiots who want to spoil the game, that gave us cheating. Too damn lazy huh? When you make a MMORPG that over 60,000 people play, give it to me and I will bet that it is totally bug free, no crashes, and no way to cheat in some way.

EDIT: Split thread

[Junon]

Heh, i know this may seem narrowminded but i think anyone who dupes/uses dupes should die... well maybe not die but something nasty should happen to them -.-;;

I dont care if you say "Oh, Its Segas fault anyway..." So what ? Why cheat in the first place ? I'll tell you why....

CAUSE YOU SUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!

[decswxaqz]

Die is such a strong word... how about horribly maimed? lol. As long as someone who dupes doesn't play with me whilst using them, then I am not bothered. Maybe as well if you could stay offline, thanks :p.

btw. I think smokers should rot in hell too. They suck as well. o_O

Noone makes you cheat but yourself. It's up to you wether or not you resist the temptation.

[Aaron_Blitzmage]

Right Ivan lets put you into the seats of the sonic team and I will be the boss.
I want you to make a game and you only have 2 years to make it before the playsation or X-box team make a game just like it.

You are the type of person who thinks it all has to be perfect.
Well think of all the hard work and limited time sega put into there game only to see they found some dicks who decided to say it was segas fault for doing that.

So Ivan get me a game that looks and plays just like it in 2 years.
If there are no bugs I will take your point.

[Proj3ct_Zer0]

Good point Aaron. And I can understand what your all talking about. Ive been on various sites that say its Sonic Teams fault that they have fucked up the game. How in the fuck is it there fault!? There providing us with a game (which is great by the way :p) and some ass holes decide to go hack into it and open up everything and spoil it themselves. Now...tell me how the fuck is it there fault!?!?