07-02-2007, 01:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-02-2007, 02:01 PM by Anti Hacker.)
No need to be so harsh EkwEE, don't you remember being 15? 
The only possible way I can fathom for reincarnation to occur is because of the apparently cyclic nature of the universe.
Basically, I don't think it's actually possible for anything random to happen. "Random" is an illusion. Chances are what people take when they can't accurately predict the future. But if you were to rewind time, and play it out again exactly the same, the same thing would happen.
Therefore if humans could actually see all factors of every given situation at once probability would cease to exist, because... Well... It doesn't exist. It just exists in peoples minds, reactions can only have one outcome even if you don't know what that outcome is. It means you're lacking in knowledge, not that there's a "chance" of anything.
If you flip a coin, it's not A 50/50 chance. Due to air resistance, the mass of the coin in its' different areas, the height dropped or flipped from, the force applied, gravity... Due to numerous factors by the time you flip a coin the outcome is already decided by natural law.
So assuming nothing can ever be random, why should the big bang be any different? Every big bang MAY be exactly the same as the last, and because there is no such thing as a random outcome the exact same particles may follow the same path for eternity. And the universe is so old... I have probably typed this out billions and billions of times before.
The exact same atoms in the exact same arrangement building the exact same memories. Me!
However even science states that some particles apparently have erratic and truly random movement. I don't actually believe this, I just believe we don't yet understand why some particles move in the directions they do. IMO nothing will ever point to the existence of true chance, just a lack of understanding to reactions that later we will discover and say "there's more proof chance is a fabrication of the human mind".
So if reincarnation does exist, prepare to have this whole debate again.
FOREVER
The only possible way I can fathom for reincarnation to occur is because of the apparently cyclic nature of the universe.
Basically, I don't think it's actually possible for anything random to happen. "Random" is an illusion. Chances are what people take when they can't accurately predict the future. But if you were to rewind time, and play it out again exactly the same, the same thing would happen.
Therefore if humans could actually see all factors of every given situation at once probability would cease to exist, because... Well... It doesn't exist. It just exists in peoples minds, reactions can only have one outcome even if you don't know what that outcome is. It means you're lacking in knowledge, not that there's a "chance" of anything.
If you flip a coin, it's not A 50/50 chance. Due to air resistance, the mass of the coin in its' different areas, the height dropped or flipped from, the force applied, gravity... Due to numerous factors by the time you flip a coin the outcome is already decided by natural law.
So assuming nothing can ever be random, why should the big bang be any different? Every big bang MAY be exactly the same as the last, and because there is no such thing as a random outcome the exact same particles may follow the same path for eternity. And the universe is so old... I have probably typed this out billions and billions of times before.
The exact same atoms in the exact same arrangement building the exact same memories. Me!
However even science states that some particles apparently have erratic and truly random movement. I don't actually believe this, I just believe we don't yet understand why some particles move in the directions they do. IMO nothing will ever point to the existence of true chance, just a lack of understanding to reactions that later we will discover and say "there's more proof chance is a fabrication of the human mind".
So if reincarnation does exist, prepare to have this whole debate again.
FOREVER
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