08-08-2007, 11:54 AM
I believe the drop rate for the Red Ring is 0/64 which, as K_I_R_E_E_K already stated, is a 0% drop.
For grinding, if you get a Durandal to 36 grind then use a Trigrinder it will jump to +39. To maximise it, find out the full grind of the weapon, get it one below that, and use a Trigrinder on it.
For Frames and such, it depends. Some rare shields and such won't display, but others do. For example the Mege series.
For grinding, if you get a Durandal to 36 grind then use a Trigrinder it will jump to +39. To maximise it, find out the full grind of the weapon, get it one below that, and use a Trigrinder on it.
For Frames and such, it depends. Some rare shields and such won't display, but others do. For example the Mege series.


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