Best ATP Weapon in Episode 1/2?

[Arrogantelf]

I think once you are of a high enough level this atp question becomes invalid anyway as by then everyone should be able to floor a single enemy in one volley anyway, leaving the how much atp question useless.
Offline i can floor 3 boomas in a row with my Double cannon or DND's borrowed BKB. Ijust prefer the 'look' of the double cannon.
With my 45% hit DoB the death rate becomes almost stupid. A line of 6 claws for instance,one volley=gone in berserk.
Anywho, its all about fun in the end and if you have a team of four(on or offline) then its great to see a huge variety of weaps doing their own thing and generally owning any and all creatures in their path.

[Makiro]

NetNomad's posts induce severe brain hemorrhaging - watch out! ^_^b

Using dictionary definitions of stuff in your average debate/argument is stupid and overdone, and saying "I PLAY THIS WAY IT R FUN" is stupid in this situation. Why? Because even if Yas9k is such an awesome mechgun that it makes you shit your pants, it still doesn't make it any more useful. And that's what we are talking about yes?

We're talking about killing stuff, coolness does not kill stuff. It's already been said that Demons will kill quicker than a weak mechgun. You can't really say otherwise, no matter how moist in the pants Yas9k makes you.

And hey, if you have the time to pipe for a DC that's wonderful. I have time to open up CheatCE and hax myself a 100/0/0/100/100 Daylight Scar - but I don't. You aren't meant to be piping until the end of time, so if you're working it out legitimately then Red Daggers _are_ better. Saying 'my leet hax will help me get da wepun quicker so therefor it is bettar!' is just kind of stupid and useless. That's not how the game is intended to be played.

To annoy everyone further, I will now state that I hate HUs using mechguns n.n;;

[DARKMATTER]

I got Meteor Cudgel yesterday with my FOmar, and the weapon is soooo sweet (course fully grinded now and onto my HUmar) yum i love it. But now trying with my HUmar to get kasumi bracer and agito 1975.

[K_I_R_E_E_K]

I think once you are of a high enough level this atp question becomes invalid anyway as by then everyone should be able to floor a single enemy in one volley anyway, leaving the how much atp question useless..

i had the max atp by lvl 120 and even now(lvl 174) the ultimate ruins are hard, i mean.......they are easy but the boss is hard, so a high atp and % is better because i kill the boss faster, therefore less opurtunities to get killed
and atp is a thing that is never enouf, that is why i continue to search for weapons , to see if i find even better ones.
whe you kill alot of claws, i have to say it ......nice.(keep it up)

[Hrith]

It's a video game, A.S... not a business.

INTERNET. SERIOUS BUSINESS.

I seriously agree on the Demon's/Hell Laser with hit% part, I'd never use one. Bringer's Rifle is like a Demon's Laser with a bit of hit% and looks a lot cooler. Not like RAmar and RAmarl really need the added ATA.

[Teh EkwEE]

INTERNET. SERIOUS BUSINESS.

I seriously agree on the Demon's/Hell Laser with hit% part, I'd never use one. Bringer's Rifle is like a Demon's Laser with a bit of hit% and looks a lot cooler. Not like RAmar and RAmarl really need the added ATA.

Now honestly was THAT big a font needed?....C'mon Kef, you gotta' 'set the standard' *gags, then puts in lecturing tone* If you do that, other fourmers will take it as an example and do it as well. WTF is wif dat yo?!

Usefulness has to be taken into consideration, but ULTIMATELY, you have to look at what you think is cool. I can't stand my 50% Machine L&K's, but I use them because I destroy Mines hella quickly, and just about everything else. I'd rather use my Red Daggers, but it don't do as much considering it has shitty percents. All that really matters is what the player thinks, except n00bmars, because they can't make decisions on their own.

[Makiro]

Ragol Nurbs. LOL. :3
Anyway, as much as you like a weapon, you can't say that your opinion on it (on an aestetic level anyway) means anything. That was pretty much my point. Kef and mah Asim beat me to any other points on why the weapons in question suck.

[NetNomad]

I can teyp in big fontz 2 LOLOL XD

Usefulness has to be taken into consideration, but ULTIMATELY, you have to look at what you think is cool. I can't stand my 50% Machine L&K's, but I use them because I destroy Mines hella quickly, and just about everything else. I'd rather use my Red Daggers, but it don't do as much considering it has shitty percents. All that really matters is what the player thinks, except n00bmars, because they can't make decisions on their own.

Now see, I would get totally, TOTALLY bored with that scenario. L&Ks with decent percents? No thank you. I'll whip out my Red Mechgun or Yas9k... or a Twin Psychogun with my HUmar/HUnewearl (yes I'm aware it's a bad weapon... but as it was once put by Kefka, and I agree on this, HUs using mechs is pretty n00bish... thus, the ones my HUs carry are weak for handicap purposes). Either way, I'd gladly take a little bit more time killing things rather than face the mundane quality of a weapon I'm rather likely to find from the next box I open. My only full-time exception to this rule is my FOmar's Vise.
*Ignores n00bmar comment*

I seriously agree on the Demon's/Hell Laser with hit% part, I'd never use one. Bringer's Rifle is like a Demon's Laser with a bit of hit% and looks a lot cooler. Not like RAmar and RAmarl really need the added ATA.

True... funny, I just looked up the comparisons and it seems Bringer's Rifle is 3 more ATA than the S-Rank. Not a big difference of course... there's a considerable ATP difference though. So overall, about the same.

As for internet being a business... well, I suppose it's all in what you hope to get out of it. Funny, I don't see myself landing a career thanks to how fast I kill my enemies in PSO. (yeah I'm aware that that was a joke... (I hope?))

[whiteninja]

Yeah, the online online game you can actually use as a "buisness"... World of Warcraft.

But that's not even the same way that you are talking about... at all. People set up places in China where they pay a nickel a day to have people play and harvest gold/silver/copper for hours on end, with rotating shifts. So they have the characters playing 24/7... not for any fun at all though. (Okay, in that sense it is the same way you are talking about.)

They stand wherever enemies spawn and just beat them down as they spawn, pick up the gold, and wait for the next spawn... 16 hours or so later, next guys turn. Then you see the ads on some sites selling 100 gold (that is alot!) for $30... of course, Blizzard actually tries to crack down on that.

Though, you are using "buisness" to refer to something as it is not an event to be taken lightly. Except... well... it's a game!

Now, it just me, or does it seem that BlueBurst players are really uptight about having strong weapons, while GC people would just prefer to have their characters look awesome and have fun?

[Tsunami]

This thread shouldn't have been made....

The word "best" shouldn't have been used...

I say it should have been called "Favorite ATP weapon in Episode 1/2?"
Because no matter what, it comes down to your own personal opinion.
There is no "best" item no matter what any of you say. It's just a game. If you play it like a business, then I have the utmost feelings of pity for you.
I think we all need to realize this is just a game. Have fun. Enjoy it.

And Kef, I've been meaning to say this for a long time, just because you don't agree with everyone else doesn't give you the right to shut down the thread.

Also...Kef...you flame other people's opinions way too much. Seriously.