Sony PSP VS Nintendo DS

[Valero]

I never said new ideas was bad. I said that it complicates programming. As for buying the addons for DS, and it being cheaper than PSP even still... Well, you live in Europe. I'm in America, and things gets here before they do there so I guess you don't know yet. PSP will soon be dropped to the price of the DS. The price-tag for PSP right now is the release tag, so people who want it sooner pay more, (which is why I don't have mine yet). As for the memory cards costing so much, PSP should come with a card already, with only 32 mb. These 2 512 mb cards are well worth the price, considering the average game requires 2-5 mbs of space on the card. mp3s are small, and the movies will just have to be smaller resolution, and that's only if you feel like not paying more money for over a gig when the average game or song uses 2-5 mbs. And the saving movies is only if you don't want to buy the PSP movie.

But I just guess things are different in America, the second largest consumer in video games. Say that's not true and tell me why games are released here second. And I HAVE a Gamecube, and I keep watch for good games. I think I already own all the good ones, making my Gamecube library about 3 games, soon to be 4 (I'm no nintendo junkie, but to deny the power of Zelda is just retarded.)

Just to prove you further wrong, here are 10 'non-kiddy' good Gamecube games: Killer7, Resident Evil 4, Timesplitters: Future Perfect, Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2, F-Zero, Baten Kaitos, Soul Calibur 2, Metal Gear Solid, Phantasy Star Online.

Killer 7, Timesplitters, SC2, MGS, and PSO are all on other systems as well, meaning they are not GC originals, meaning I could play them on better, more mainstream systems. Resident Evil is also a franchise that is not only on GC. If I really wanted to, I could get the same experience from a different system. Among the games you mentioned, only Metroid Prime and Baten Katios are original and fun. F-Zero is another racing game, and Metroid Prime 2 is a clone of the first one with the suit thing added. It didn't even look like it had better graphics.

Gamecube does have some good games, but not enough to keep it alive. The DS may survive, but when you think about it, Nintendo is being retarded about it. They made a handheld aside from their Gameboy, and claim that Gameboys will continue being made. This means they made 2 handheld systems that WILL CLASH WITH EACHOTHER. Someone's getting senile, and its the president of Nintendo.

And I will admit, I still play my Gamecube. I'm playing Super Smash Bros. Melee right now. However, that's getting off topic, back to the BS and PSP.

DS will score good with kids and Pokemon fanatics. Also it will go well with people who still haven't grown tired of the repetitive plumber platforming. And Zelda fanboys will definately get it. However, that's not enough of the crowds to keep it going.

You're missing out on some truly excellent gaming on the Gamecube, and while less with the DS (as it has been out shorter) still missing out by being so narrow-minded.

I'm not as narrow-minded as you may think. I just prefer games that I can enjoy and deploy my skills, such as Kingdom Hearts. What's that? Kingdom Hearts? Didn't that game have Disney in it, making it half-kiddy? I play games targeted at all kinds of people. Mario games become repetitive, Pokemon was funner when the graphics were horrible and not nearly as many attacks and monster to memorize, Pikmin... Nothing to say. Spent a week playing the first one.

On other systems, though, the possibilities are endless, mainly because Sony doesn't try to control what games come out. Same with Xbox. I don't play GC because it uses the same things over and over, aside from the multiplatform games. I will play maybe 1 or 2 games on DS. Yes, that's right, I'm buying a DS. Why? I collect systems . I have almost every system everreleased, and Nintendo's flawed handheld will not be missing from it. But the games I will be playing are first persons, because that is where the DS truly shines, and the FF: Crystal Chronicles that is to be released. But you know what? I'm buying PSP first. Why? It's better, and worth my money.

Reconsider your opinions on both consoles

Don't need to, they're my opinions. Also, I suggest you try to understand numbers. 1024/120= 8.53mbs for $1. That's a pretty nice deal if you ask me.

[K_I_R_E_E_K]

in my opinion gc just don't know when to quit
it will be dead very soon.

[mr_shoe_uk]

Right.. you continue to make less sense to me. Mind explaining what those numbers are supposed to mean?

The whole memory issue is still silly, because you mention many points about the PSP being able to play mp3s and videos, thus needing the bigger, very expensive memory card. A 512mb can get about 150 songs on alone, and even with lower resolutions perhaps 2 full movies maximum. I can't see the point in anyone getting a UMD video. They can get a higher qaulity version which is compatible with more players by just purchasing the DVD.

I don't really understand what you're saying about the difference because I'm in Europe.

I know not all of those 'non-kiddy' good Gamecube games are exclusives, but so what? I think you be hard pressed to find 10 good non-kiddy titles for any console that were exclusive. You can get it for a 'more mainstream, better console'? Well for the few that weren't exclusive, around half are best on the Gamecube.

To top it all off, there's a real lack of stand-out titles on PSP.

Kireek, you're an amusing guy You're missing out a lot of top games by thinking of Nintendo games only as Mario though.

[Valero]

I think you be hard pressed to find 10 good non-kiddy titles for any console that were exclusive.

Devil May Cry 1-3, Chaos Legion, Tekken 1-5 and tag tournaments, Star Ocean 3, Death by Degrees, Halo 1 & 2, Samurai Warriors, Onimusha 1-3, Shinobi, Drakengard, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Arc the Lad, Project Gotham Racing, Crimson Sea, Crimson Sea 2, Ace Combat 5, Orphen- Scion of Sorcery, Kingdom Under Fire, Phantom Dust, Phantom Crash, Armored Core 1-3 and Silent Line, Front Mission 1-4, Wild Arms 1-3, Z.O.E. 1 & 2... Must I go on? That was well over 40 games (Counting each sequal). Keep in mind that none of those decent titles are on GC, and most will more than likely not be on DS.

To top it all off, there's a real lack of stand-out titles on PSP.

Need for Speed Underground: Rivals, Dynasty Warriors, Untold Legends, and MGS: Ac!d are the only ones I know off the top of my head, but PSP hasn't been out all that long. DS has been out longer. Also, many of the awesome titles above will be making sequals or prequals onto the PSP, such as DMC and Ptroject Gotham Racing. Also, there will be Final Fantasy titles on PSP, including one of the many sequal/prequals to FFVII, but of course you might just say "So what?". As I've said before, the only place the DS rules is minigame libraries such as Warioware, 1st person shooters, and cursor games (like the Sims or Starcraft)

[Lee-yoshi]

Project Gotham Racing on PSP :S You sure about that?

Also Dynasty Warriors rules, although the PSP version is very dodgy and not all the same as the PS2 version imo - Kinda the only game i wudda got a PSP for, and i love Dynasty Warriors, even without owning a PS2 XD Aside from that, im not really interested in PSP whatsoever - Itll sell to everyone else of course... Why? Even at its high price, oh look, another GTA game, cha-ching!

Those are kinda the only things i like about the PSP... wait that was one thing, well half a thing! Ive pretty much said everything else i can say XD

[Valero]

Yeah, actually, I heard a rumor about it on a PGR forum. Games I know of that are specifically of interest (to me) are PSO I & II, Monster Hunter Portable, FFVII: Crisis Core, MGS: Ac!d, Untold Legends, and Dynasty Warriors. As for GTA... That game is the representation of everything I think is retarded. Gang shootings, the mob, black people on bicycles, and rediculous cheats. The only times I've ever had fun on a GTA game were once on GTA2 (the flame-thrower killing spree... *drools*), GTA3 (watching my friend take on a group of cop cars using the dodo bird cheat coming down the tunnel) and GTA:VC (the katana...), but that's it.

PSP will be having quite a few titles soon. It only just came out, after all.

[masterofchaos]

I dont know lee metal gear acid is a great game I played on my freinds psp it was good its worth buying a psp for.

[mdbrim2004]

probably not. I've decided not to waste money on Nintendo products anymore, because they never get anywhere. Gamecube was a complete flop with less than 10 good, non-kid games. And as if you hadn't read it earlier, Sonic Team, creators of Sonic and PSO, will be focusing their attention on Sony and/or Xbox because of the much larger audience. I'm sure they appreciate the nintendo junkies who love Sonic and PSO being so faithful, but faithfulness doesn't make money. Sonic Team understands that there is more money in the Xbox and Sony consoles than Nintendo, because Nintendo's president doesn't have a clue. What kind of retard says online isn't the next frontier of gaming when Xbox is making millions from it? Nintendo's about to go the way of Sega- 3rd party game makers, because they can't keep their audience. I loved the old Snes and 64 titles as much as the next guy, but with Gamecube, Nintendo put one foot in the grave.

Do yourself a favor, and just stop posting in this topic. There are way more than 10 good non-kid games on the cube, which isn't even the subject at hand. Both systems pretty much suck atm. To those mentioning Dynasty Warriors as a selling point, it is also coming to the DS soon anyway.

Hmmm obviously if you're here, and we're all here then maybe Nintendo does have an audience unless you are only here for the Dreamcast or BB versions of PSO. Half of the stuff you stated in your posts is complete BS.

One more thing, NES, GameBoy, SNES, GBC, GBA, etc. How the hell is it that
Nintendo never gets anywhere, huh? The only system you can place on the not getting anywhere list is the Virtual Boy. End of story.

[Valero]

In case you haven't noticed, GC pretty much flopped. Also, it sounds to me like a nintendo junkie has been pushed over the edge. ^^

One more thing, NES, GameBoy, SNES, GBC, GBA, etc. How the hell is it that
Nintendo never gets anywhere, huh? The only system you can place on the not getting anywhere list is the Virtual Boy. End of story.

Keep in mind that most of that was over 10 years ago. Things do change. 10 years ago, Nintendo was competing with Sega. Sega flopped. Nintendo's not far behind, especially after seeing DS. And Dynasty Warriors is NOT a selling point. I never said that would be someone's sole purpose for buying a PSP.

Also, keep in mind this place is NOT nintendo's audience. This is Phantasy Star Online's audience, or more specifically, Sonic Team's. PSO is on PC, DC, XB, and GC. You know what that means? Not everyone here is a nintendo junkie. And if you seem so sure of yourself, name 10 non-kid, non-multiplatform games for gamecube. That means non-kid graphics (like Wind Waker), non-kid overall design (like Pikmin), and not rated E.

Plenty of those games on Xbox and PS2. Not so many on Gamecube. However, this argument is irrelavent.

Back on topic, the DS, like Gamecube, has a high probability of flopping. Claim the Gamecube isn't a failure, and you're just ignorant. It has fun games, but 5-year-olds don't make up the majority in the video gaming market, and neither do nintendo fanboys and girls. This is coming from a guy who loved the first 3 Marios. My first system was an NES, and my first game was Mario. I own an SNES with a game library bigger than any of my other systems. I even just got done playing Ogre Battle --64--. I love nintendo, but I don't love it to the point where it has blinded me to the truth. Nintendo is going to die unless the Revolution can save it (which it might just do with its built in Emulation system). The DS can't save nintendo, because the DS just doesn't make the cut.

[Helios]

PSP oviously better I don't own eitther system becasue they both suck. I don't have a DS becasue I'm not 5 years old and I don't feel like watching mario suck the money out of my pockets like he has been doing since I was 5 years old. DS is crap because it built on a a gimick that you can touch it and only 1/3 of the games in it's libary actualy use the touch pad so your getting ripped off right there. PSP has alot better games and they are in 3d and every kid in my school has a PSP only the little nerdy kids who play Smash Bros on the Noobcube play DS. PSP has music, games, video and you can put files on it. If you think Sony is just trying to rip every one else off and Nintendo isn't you are the dumbist person in the world. Sony hasn't made a new system in the 2 years only inprovements where as nintendo makes a new system ever 3 minutes like so Nes comes out, then Gameboy, then Snes,then game boy pocket, then gameboy color, then game cube then game boy advance, then game boy advance sp, then DS and then there will be Revolutions, then game boy evolutions and I damn well know Nintendo fan boys world wide bought all those systems so whos realy throwing there money away. I don't have a PSP becasue I don't buy gen 1 systems and it's too much right now, I'm gonna get one when it comes down in price and they fix it. I think sales tells you who one this fight. So what the battery last 6 hour, if you play a game for 20 hours You realy need a life spending more then 6 hours on any game is too much.