ATP, how does it work?

[jarl]

how does ATP work? in making my database i figured out that guld milla will do the same amount of ATP/combo as a red saber. now cumon, that cant be right! i dont own a guld milla, its true, but i have used a red saber and its not that great, so how do the best mechs in the game do 3 atp less/combo than a slightly above average saber but own it in damage? are you seriosuly telling me to believe that my l+k's which can take down a barble in 1 combo are beaten by a final impact which i know is NOT true? hw does ATP work?

[whiteninja]

Well, you need a certain base amount of attack to do any damamge period, otherwise, you do 0's... After that, each 50 ATP gives about 10 damage on a Normal attack...

So, lets say you are doing 1's with your unequipped attack (you just got to Ultimate )... now for the sake of easy math, I am going to round numbers.

Red Saber 650 ATP, that would about 130 damage, x3 is 390; total 393
Guld Milla 200 ATP, that adds about 40 damage, x9 is 360; total 396

Well, if you already do 200 damage unequipped... (200 on a Normal attack, unequipped is ALOT)

Red Saber, adds 130 damage, total of 990.
Guld Milla, adds 40 damage, total of 2160.

The higher your base ATP is, the more effective weak, many hit weapons are.

[Hrith]

You are leaving out the main and most important aspect of ATP on PSO, it is exponential.

Exponential means damage does not increase in a fixed way.

For instance, the difference between 800 and 1000 base ATP is drastic, while the difference between 1200 and 1400 base ATP is barely noticeable, even though the difference is 200 ATP in both cases.

[jarl]

so your saying the higher level i become, the lower damage the extra ATP will give me?

[rena-ko]

pretty much.

[Jimbo1990]

all i'm going to say to that is this 0_o;;

[whiteninja]

That explains why I don't do 1000000 damage in Normal mode... exponential... Heh, never thought of that... I may look into it... doubt it though... too busy...

[jarl]

exponential actually means increasing at an increasinhg rate i suppose this would be negatively exponential then....

[Jimbo1990]

i still don't get it but if i think too hard i get a headache

[jarl]

ok, a brief explanation of exponential: increasing at an increasing rate...

i.e- 1,3,5,7,9,11 is NOT exponential, it increases by 2 each time

1,3,6,10,15,21 IS exponential- it increases by 2, then 3, then 4, then 5 then 6.

1,8,200,847285,296328016974,136085987587245078025467 is also exponential as it firstly increases by 7, then 192 then whatever- every time it goes up it goes up more than it did last time.

Binary is a great way to show this- that goes 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024, etc. each time it goes up by more than it did before.


basically, what kefka (im guessing) meant to say was it is negatively exponential- eg, the damage increase from a +10 ATP each time would go something like:
10 6 4 3 2.5 2.25
+10 +10 +10 +10 +10 +10