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I would like to elaborate on the "hacks" some bore witness to and most have seen pics
#1
Alright, I first posted the following on the microsoft forums, but I believe it has a place amoung any psu message board. The reason for posting in the lobby and not hacks is the "epidemic" it has caused in other forums. I believe it to be very important, and a must read for anyone scared of psu being ruined.

First and foremost, I can NOT stress enough that I am NOT a hacker. At least not as far as Phantasy Star is concerned. What is most correct is the term “reverse engineering” I’m sure everyone’s seen the seals on many games “By breaking this seal you agree not to reverse engineer yadda yadda bla bla” What was done was merely reverse engineering in ASM(Assembly language) more specifically DISASM, as well as memory and packet editing.



I’m afraid that the release of my screen shots has almost caused some sort of panic. People saying they’re going to quit, and that the game is ruined. This was not my intention what so ever. My website has been flooded with people either spamming, trying to start crap, or begging ever since, as well as many people in denial claiming its photoshopped. In the entire time I’ve played the game, I have heard at least 500+ times that its photoshopped, until of course a week later when I leak it to the public, and then after that its “snowfox didn’t make it bla bla”



Why resurface now? The game was released in October, why wait this long, was I in some dark basement doing this all that time? No. I purchased the game October 26th, and frankly it was a little bit of a disappointment in my eyes. Later that day I had a pretty bad break up with my ex. I flew down to Kansas to visit my friend who I hadn’t heard from in a while to clear my mind. He is also a staff member on my forums. I brought my 360, contrary to the rumors, I did not go there for us to “hax0r the *** out of psu” as many people said. However while I was down there it did spark a few ideas. I came back to Arizona, everything I knew in shambles, car broke as usual (yeah heard the I don’t have a supra one before many times and itl probably come up again). December 30th was when I finally unpacked from my Kansas trip and took my 360 out.



I’ve been sick with a head cold for almost a week now, I was bored, the whole “unhackable” thing really sparked my curiosity. After messing around for about 5 hours straight, and looking up information on the 360 software, bios, and tweaks people have done, I was able to come up with a way. Sadly it didn’t work lol. I spent another 2 hours revising it, and presto chango, it worked. Anything is possible with enough determination and anger. Now onto the main point the part that I find most important. People have been spreading rumors that I will release this, and that the game will be ruined. This is completely false.



As of tonight I have no reason, or intention to give this to anyone more than my staff members who I know personally and have complete trust in. In the past, there was the photoshop claims, after release there was the “snowfox is a fake” claims. Well, you know what? Tough ***. This time it isn’t going to the public, for many reasons. One being, If I released it I will almost surely be discredited.



Second reason? Stupid kids with too much time on their hands. The kids you see on ep 1 and 2 xbox in their npc character talking smack because they downloaded a file off my site. That is why I didn’t release some things for this version. What I did on new years can be potentially harmful in the wrong hands. Honestly, I don’t want to see the game die this early on.



Third, corporate giants. By releasing this, not only am I messing with Sega, but I’m also messing with Microsoft and xbox live. I am not going to deal with that. Sorry, but I have too much crap going on to deal with multi billion dollar corporations because some pubescent *** boy claimed I was a fake.



Those of you who still care to challenge it, this is my offer to you. Tomorrow I have to go into work briefly to give a lecture/presentation/whatever you want to call it. After that I am willing to go on the game. You will be able to see my level and what not. I will disclose where I will be 2 hours before, so expect it to be early evening. I am not responsible for anything that happens. If you lose your character, or get banned, that is YOUR deal. I’ve heard from people last night when I was doing this they got very laggy, and some people randomly lost an item or two. So bear witness at your own risk. This is experimental and I don’t know what effect it will have.



If anyone would like to discuss any of this, theyre welcome to. My screen name is snowfox00x. I will sit down with anyone to discuss it as long as they aren’t being an ignorant dumb *** talking *** or whatever. There is a block button, and it only takes 3 seconds, also I can not be punted, I run gaim, not aim, sorry to disappoint. You’re welcome to try but it won’t work, sorry. Until then, I wish all of you a happy new year, and again I am sorry for any panic the screen shots have caused. Maybe back on dreamcast I’d release them to get a kick, but I've grown up a lot since then, I’m not a 16 year old kid anymore.



Love,

Snowfox
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#2
It seems I would have a small understanding in this form of editing, since I took a college course which depended on the creation and editing of ASM.Tongue However I commend you for not releasing this dangerous edit to the media at large, because as you say yourself, it is dangerous in the wrong hands. Another problem with that however, is that the wrong hands are always groping for new toys, always looking for something else to screw up. Your idea of people challenging it, though, I must say i'm intrigued. Were I able to get online, I would come and see it myself. Unfortunately i'm not. And as you say, another reason not to release it is the legal problems it can cause. But surely by posting this here, you run the risk of someone from SEGA / Sonic Team reading it and going out on a head-hunt for you.
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Yeah especially as these boards are no longer 100% unofficial. We're kinda sponsored by SEGA now, so we're probably bound to communicate whatever we find here.

Also, reverse engineering is hacking. Hacking is gaining access to areas of software which should be restricted from your reach. Yes, Snowfox, even though you may not believe this; something as simple as guessing the password to a friends user log-on as a practical joke through trial and error is actually hacking. Fact. There is no disputing it.

And also allow me to point you towards section 3 of the computer misuse act of 1990 (Headed - "Unauthorised modification of computer material").

Computer Misuse Act Wrote:3.—(1) A person is guilty of an offence if—
(a) he does any act which causes an unauthorised modification of the contents of any computer; and
(b) at the time when he does the act he has the requisite intent and the requisite knowledge.
(2) For the purposes of subsection (1)(b) above the requisite intent is an intent to cause a modification of the contents of any computer and by so doing—
(a) to impair the operation of any computer;
(b) to prevent or hinder access to any program or data held in any computer; or
© to impair the operation of any such program or the reliability of any such data.
(3) The intent need not be directed at—
(a) any particular computer;
(b) any particular program or data or a program or data of any particular kind; or
© any particular modification or a modification of any particular kind.
(4) For the purposes of subsection (1)(b) above the requisite knowledge is knowledge that any modification he intends to cause is unauthorised.

(5) It is immaterial for the purposes of this section whether an unauthorised modification or any intended effect of it of a kind mentioned in subsection (2) above is, or is intended to be, permanent or merely temporary.

(6) For the purposes of the [1971 c. 48.] Criminal Damage Act 1971 a modification of the contents of a computer shall not be regarded as damaging any computer or computer storage medium unless its effect on that computer or computer storage medium impairs its physical condition.

(7) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable—
(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or to both; and
(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to a fine or to both.

You're lucky you don't live in Europe or the UK Snowfox. I'm pretty sure you don't, and it's all a lot more relaxed in terms of the rules over there in the USA.

However, you could still have been caught out already. For a start you have posted about this on a UK board, and have offered to show UK or European players the hacking. If you have hacked and used that hacking on any of the servers or "Universes" that are actually physically stored in Europe or the UK you may already have a case against you. You do not need to be out of the US to be prosecuted under our widespread ICT legislation.

As section 4 of the computer misuse act states it is "immaterial" or "irrelivant" that you were outside this country as long as the effects of what you have done or taught to others in conspiracy are felt here.

If you ever appeared on an EU server on PSO Gamecube with hacks then you can probably already be prosecuted. If you have ever leaked hacking information (accidentally, intentionally or not - it doesn't really matter) to anyone who has caused trouble over here, again, you can already be prosecuted.

I'm not saying I hope you get screwed by the long arm of the ICT legislation law, I'm just saying... Watch your back. Especially as these boards are now affiliated with SEGA itself.

Also, SEGA of Europe will have had their own part to play in creating the actual game! If you hack even the US version of the game on an American system in the USA you can STILL be offending SEGA of Europe which would bring you under our legislation, probably. So be careful what you let slip, especially around here.
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#4
you mean sega is watching what we type.... eeep.....
i love you sega ^^
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Possibly, possibly not. Actually I doubt it but technically because these boards are affiliated with SEGA of Europe I guess the staff members here are unpaid SEGA staff to a certain extent and so have a duty to report... incidents.
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Anti Hacker Wrote:Possibly, possibly not. Actually I doubt it but technically because these boards are affiliated with SEGA of Europe I guess the staff members here are unpaid SEGA staff to a certain extent and so have a duty to report... incidents.

As, in a way, are the members of the board. Since we choose to sign up and talk about it, we are effectively giving them the information willingly and without fighting to keep it from them.
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Respect for not releasing it.
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Anti Hacker Wrote:Yeah especially as these boards are no longer 100% unofficial. We're kinda sponsored by SEGA now, so we're probably bound to communicate whatever we find here.

Also, reverse engineering is hacking. Hacking is gaining access to areas of software which should be restricted from your reach. Yes, Snowfox, even though you may not believe this; something as simple as guessing the password to a friends user log-on as a practical joke through trial and error is actually hacking. Fact. There is no disputing it.

And also allow me to point you towards section 3 of the computer misuse act of 1990 (Headed - "Unauthorised modification of computer material").



You're lucky you don't live in Europe or the UK Snowfox. I'm pretty sure you don't, and it's all a lot more relaxed in terms of the rules over there in the USA.

However, you could still have been caught out already. For a start you have posted about this on a UK board, and have offered to show UK or European players the hacking. If you have hacked and used that hacking on any of the servers or "Universes" that are actually physically stored in Europe or the UK you may already have a case against you. You do not need to be out of the US to be prosecuted under our widespread ICT legislation.

As section 4 of the computer misuse act states it is "immaterial" or "irrelivant" that you were outside this country as long as the effects of what you have done or taught to others in conspiracy are felt here.

If you ever appeared on an EU server on PSO Gamecube with hacks then you can probably already be prosecuted. If you have ever leaked hacking information (accidentally, intentionally or not - it doesn't really matter) to anyone who has caused trouble over here, again, you can already be prosecuted.

I'm not saying I hope you get screwed by the long arm of the ICT legislation law, I'm just saying... Watch your back. Especially as these boards are now affiliated with SEGA itself.

Also, SEGA of Europe will have had their own part to play in creating the actual game! If you hack even the US version of the game on an American system in the USA you can STILL be offending SEGA of Europe which would bring you under our legislation, probably. So be careful what you let slip, especially around here.

I'm full aware of the laws, and rights under internet safety and prosecution. Your definition of "hacking" could not be more far from the actual than it is now. Hacking is gaining accesses to illegal or unauthorized content through computer prgramming. Guessing passwords would be cracking. Reverse engineering is exactly that reverse engineering, no more. Illegal to reverse engineer most new games, but i suggest you look up these terms before you make your accusations next time. If sega is not aware of this, they probably will be. I know this. Also, for prosecution, they would need a SOLID case. Which means a lot more than pictures what clips of text online. Cases like this are thrown out every day, unless its something as big as halo 2 or something being leaked.
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#9
Why not point it out to Sega/ST, so maybe they could fix it? If you could do this, you could probably help them beef up security. =D
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Reigast Wrote:Why not point it out to Sega/ST, so maybe they could fix it? If you could do this, you could probably help them beef up security. =D
Clumsy would never allow that, i offered my help before and he banned me. some egotistical prick with a false god complex. it'd actually be realitively easy to fix. Either company could do it, sega, or microsoft, sega could fix it from their end, or microsoft from theirs. It deals with a mistake with WMC on the 360. Main reason its possible.
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