"Races" of PSO

[Mirinee]

Yes, sick. And making Newmans in the first place was unethical, whatever the reason(s) may have been in the PS games. Even though it's just a game, it bothers me a bit. Humans have such a great thirst for knowledge, that they created those poor Newmans.

They should not be biologically compatible with humans (if they're able to reproduce at all), so it should really be "3 species of PSO", rather than calling it "race". Those are my thoughts on it.

(A definition of the word 'race':
An interbreeding, usually geographically isolated population of organisms differing from other populations of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits.)

Teh EkwEE's idea was intriguing. Statistics are important and informative and not merely numbers. How on Pioneer did you get those %? What's the Punit Square like?

Edit: Spelling. It's actually "Punnett".

[Teh EkwEE]

<.< Oh, yeah I forgot it IS spelled Punitt Square. It's basically just a tic-tac-toe board with the dominant and recessive trait and you cross them and see what you get but like I said newmans are complicated. They have multiple phenotypes that make them that way. Pointed ears (most notably) and their higher intelligence and extended life all make them newmans, which if looked at them that way would make interbreeding possible, just not probable. Controling genotypes (which are just normal traits) , phenotypes (how those genes are expressed) would make things nearly impossible to control because several things would have to be controlled in order to ensure a newman stays a newman and doesn't create a hybrid and after thinking on what White Ninja said I'm thinking that the newman phenotype may indeed be recessive. But it contradicts itself because newmen were created originally from humans, and that first generation would have been part human. They were actually created from mixing monster DNA and human DNA resulting in Nei from PS2. But the second generation was probably locked in that newman phenotype because they were born pure newman, as it were, they had no trace of their human ancestry other than they're parents would have been half human. So I retract my statement about the newman phenotype being recessive, since newman are newman, I believe there human phenotypes are recessive and only can result in a human birth when they breed with a human. It's all very complicated, we could go on for hours about how this could have implications for the future of our race.:alien:

[Faulkie]

So where do androids come into this? o.O LMAO

[Teh EkwEE]

I think Androids are only updated I don't think even during this time in which PSO is set they have discovered a way for them to breed yet. Other than exchaning data.....so yeah, this thread has gone a better direction. :O

[Faulkie]

Well, what I find weird is how the androids are concious of their existance, to the point of thinking about what happens when they die, like a human. Will technology progress this far do you think?

[Mirinee]

It doesn't seem very complicated. Interbreeding is risky even if it's possible, because as I said, Newmans are not yet well understood and are--although I don't agree with it--"too good to be true". So how did you get the %? Are the chances of each child being Human or Newman independent of each other? Justify yourself .

Androids seem to be quite innocent, but can they feel love too? RAcaseal Lura really really scared me in Ep3 when I first played. Let's say the human has the recessive allele when crossed with android too, *gags*.

Will technology get this far? Perhaps only theoretically, but I don't think it will. I hope not, as I'm a human and I fear we will be wiped out by the Androids and Newmans.

[Faulkie]

We wouldn't be though would we? It seems a common theme in films and stuff for robots to realise they're superior and take over... but... I'm not sure. A.I. is made from a series or analysises, and what a robot does is based on the input. I doubt robots can feel emotions. Not real ones... but I guess if we were living 1000 years ago, we'd be saying things like 'A flying machine?! Ridiculous!'.

[Teh EkwEE]

Ha ! Mirinee you do know what your talking about! The bigger the Punitt Square the smaller the percent. in the case of a tic-tac-toe board there are three spaces. 75%, 50%, and 25%. And on the android case, they are fully machine. They are not cyborgs. So the possibility of machines feeling emotions is highly unlikely. Emotions are caused by chemicals in the brain. and since machines don't have those chemicals and nor would they know how to interpret them so a chance of them feeling the emotions would be very unlikely. Now in PSO androids are played by humans who exhibit those emoitions then they could but not in real life. then there's always that possibility of transplanting a braing into a brain, but that would be a cyborg.

[Faulkie]

Would it be possible for the macinary in a robot's brain to act in the same way as the chemicals in our brains?

[Teh EkwEE]

I don't think so. Today's machines are tools, nowhere sentient. And the way a computer would have to work, if they became sentient, would be to relate some thought, or piece of data, to another. This is very similar to what we do. Except we can recall success or failure and emotions play into that. Allowing us to simulate how we should act, or how our behavior be. Machines on the other hand, react on the variables given to them they cannot simulate themselves doing something they've not been given, or told to do. Basically they cannot self teach themselves. Which seperates us from them, as much as it does from the animal kindom. Eventually machines may be able to teach themselves realating pictures and then simulating any number of variables from there, as some with a specific form of autism do.