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I took it for granted that oxygen would be present. And rafoie is one big explosion which would mean one detonation. Multiple collisions would probably result in more damage being inflicted on the opponents in the middle which is certainly not the case Wink.
Anyway, that's off topic.
mimas Wrote:By "magic" (with or without the quotation marks) I mean swords-and-sorcery type magic. Basic fantasy ingredient, and something that *SHOULD NOT* belong in PSO.

While swords-and-sorcery magic may not, magic in the general term, by definition, does belong in PSO simply because PSO is a kind of fantasy.

A nuclear weapon, which involves the fission of atoms releasing an enormous amount of energy, is closer to a (giant) RAfoie than the 'high number of simultaneous atomic collisions', which is actually happening all the time in any fluid anyway :p. The reaction with oxygen afterwards can be taken for granted.

Carrying those weapons around just won't do. Let's not compare PSO FOrces with real life, or else there'll be no -barta spells (Rapidly-expanding mini-glacier on land???) at all and it'll be no fun and there will be no more magic Sad.

And 'psychic rift'? 'Enhanced psychic abilities'? Hmm, you strongly believe in the supernatural, mimas? In that case, I cannot argue further. To me, that's also magic Tongue

Edit: Beh. This is kind of off-topic too.
.........................Its a game i dont care about how the spells work as long as they kill things
Judgment Wrote:.........................Its a game i dont care about how the spells work as long as they kill things
you said it
Mirinee Wrote:Let's not compare PSO FOrces with real life, or else there'll be no -barta spells (Rapidly-expanding mini-glacier on land???) at all and it'll be no fun and there will be no more magic Sad.
Barta series techs could be explained by atomic manipulation, only this time by slowing the atoms down (thereby sapping them of thermal energy).

Quote:A nuclear weapon, which involves the fission of atoms releasing an enormous amount of energy, is closer to a (giant) RAfoie than the 'high number of simultaneous atomic collisions', which is actually happening all the time in any fluid anyway :p. The reaction with oxygen afterwards can be taken for granted.
uhh, no the reaction with oxygen afterwards CANNOT be taken for granted. Wanna know why? Let's take a lump of firewood. It needs to react with the oxygen to combust. Ditto for any fuel. In the Rafoie example the target provides all the fuel...

I suppose nuclear fission could be taken into account as an alternative as well, but by atomic collisions I am referring to a very basic form of fusion that may not even be fusion, rather ionic bonding.

Quote:Hmm, you strongly believe in the supernatural, mimas? In that case, I cannot argue further.

I also believe that there is a "God", but that kinda stems from my religion (Judaism) and not from any scientific evidence, which is an extremely unusual occurrence for a guy like myself. I believe that there is something in the world that exists outside the standard boundaries of space and time...
*slowly backs away from mimas*
I'm a redria and I always seem to get stuff for the Hu class. but it's cool.
Rafoie and oxygen:
Yes, oxygen might be needed (to get the temperature right to start off), but not in the way you state, because nuclear fission involves heavy atom nuclei splitting, which is initiated by neutrons.

mimas Wrote:In the Rafoie example the target provides all the fuel...
There's so many things wrong with this I won't even start.

mimas Wrote:I am referring to a very basic form of fusion that may not even be fusion, rather ionic bonding.
Maybe fusion, but ionic bonding? For Rafoie? I think you're a little confused.

mimas Wrote:I believe that there is something in the world that exists outside the standard boundaries of space and time...
Yes. You mean magic Big Grin
Mirinee Wrote:There's so many things wrong with this I won't even start.
How so? Your average steel girder could burn in an oxygen-rich atmosphere (by which I mean an atmosphere containing about 40% or more oxygen rather than the crappy 20% we have to make do with).

Quote:Maybe fusion, but ionic bonding? For Rafoie? I think you're a little confused.

Ever heard of an exothermic chemical reaction? A fair number of those can involve ionic bonding...
Ionic bonds can also require a hell of a lot of energy to break, so it could possibly be classed as a kind of fusion (and therefore fission when the bonds are split).

Quote:Yes. You mean magic

No I don't mean magic, I'm more like your average parallel-universe guy than a believer in magic.
I think ragol's atmosphere's composition would be similar to that of Earth's (as you have agreed, or else things will burst into flames far too easily) and PSO Forces are clearly not carrying any tanks of oxygen that will provide that extra 20% that you'll need to burn ...your average steel girder/your foe(!)

mimas Wrote:exothermic chemical reaction?

Yes, although I'm no chemist, I've heard of that, but it is not a kind of fusion because fusion is about atomic nuclei and what you talk about is, yes, an exothermic chemical reaction. Your atoms would only want to bond ionically--and release the energy, which wouldn't be an explosive amount like what our Rafoie is anyway--because they want to be in a more stable state, so you need to get the reactants which are in a less stable state to begin with, and the reactants, which you claim to be just your foe... you get the idea.

How learned are you in science? I'm just glad you made a good attempt to explain the PSO techs; it's interesting that we actually care about those things.

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I'm not your average parallel-universe girl. Everything that science can't explain I put down to magic, but if you want to believe in parallel universes, that's cool too. Why not? Smile
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