whiteninja Wrote:No, he means it's a horrible weapon that serves little purpose. 30 ATA is too low, especially for something that cannot combo, and with that in mind, it's ATP is low too. My sphered Gi Gue Bazooka is not terribly usefull (only on EP2 bosses), and it is stronger than an unsphered Nug.
If you want it just to tag, find a Rafoie tech disk, lv13-15. That would work just as well, if not better, and it does not require endless Mines hunting.
Shh. ;[
I plan to sphere my NUG, probably when I finish MA, if ever.
(Stupid broken quest...) It would only need 7 more to become 90/80/0/90. So I could make it 60/80/0/60, I suppose.
whiteninja Wrote:Because of some quests on GC, the value of things has dropped dramatically... Mostly for:
Rainbow Baton
Double Cannon
Heaven Punisher
Snow Queen
But it also applies to many other rare that have just been made exceedingly easy to get by either playing online quests offline (Contradiction, anyone? Who needs Addicting Food when you have Ice Spinner offline? lolq) or by the release of "new quests" (one of which completely shot the previously mentioned items).
Well, I piped my 30h SQ, I didn't pipe my 0/40/0/90/50 R. Baton, and I'm not going to pipe my Heaven Punisher.
I love how you and I call Doomsday on completely different things.
(Coincidentally, I love how you call mine illogical when they have little if anything to do with logic in the first place )
Anyway... with the exception of those "quests" made by... er, let's say "that weirdo who doesn't respect droprates at all..." there really isn't much on GC that really, significantly skews the droprates (with the exception of the one quest you were referring to above). Either way, DDwBP is far worse. x_x
lets just hope that 'he who shall not be named' doesnt port DDwBP to GC as well then >.>
DDwBP cannot be ported. It occurs in EP4. Thank God. Though, I would not be surpised if a simliar quest were eventually made. >_>
Quote:1 Rafoie doesnt have as much range as the nug/GGB. also, who wouldnt want a GGB? as someone earlier today put it: 'go the flaming spitwad cannon!!!'
Rafoie has a much larger area of effect though. It is also faster than doing a normal attack on a bazooka, along with being perfectly accurate.
Quote:with the exception of those "quests" made by... er, let's say "that weirdo who doesn't respect droprates at all..." there really isn't much on GC that really, significantly skews the droprates (with the exception of the one quest you were referring to above).
Quote:2 yeah, especially the ported BB quest. bulclaws and sorcerers where the only enemies unaffected by the online quests going offline, so they ported a BB quest which has stupid amounts of sorcerers and bulclaws >.<
And AleronIve's Ruins quest has many Gunners and Bringers in it (so I have heard >_>), which previously lacked any decent quests at all. It's a shame that the only "legit" Evil Curst I know of was hunted in that quest. >_>
Kefka Wrote:It would still be a terrible weapon.
Are you sure? I never realized that ;s
And slicer with Rifle Range would be soooooooooooo cheap, even for Ep4.
A good way to test the diska range of a particular diska is to go to forest 2 and go to the bridge that has boxes on the other side. Some diskas can target the boxes while other can't.
As for DDwBP there is a cost to play that quest unlike SS which there isn't any. First you have to find the PC then if you can finish the quest solo, the rare weapon choice is random. So in the end if you only have one PC, you can only do the quest once. The PCs pretty much what controls the amount of times you can get that rare item and thus preventing the degradation of the PSO economy to some extent.
SS increased the degradation of the PSO economy much more rapidly then any quest that ST made. The drop rates are so high for some IDs that you can pretty much get a 1/2 drop within 1-3 runs. Sure it is long and it is hard to solo but you can do it anytime with a team to boot. The biggest exception is HP which has a much lower drop rate (1/205) but there is a reason why HP had a drop rate is so low with a rare enemy....
When the wants of an item decrease the supply of the item increases. We have an unlimited amount of a particular item but the amount of new goods is limited. As we collect more of the limited amount of new goods, the amount of new goods decreases. As we start reaching that point, people will want more new goods to keep them satisfied. This is called scarcity. Let me draw a supply and demand diagram and PPC.... hey this isn't econ class, lol
Right, i played through ddwbp with all my 64 photon crystals, of note, i obtained 3 invisible guards, 4 guren and a shouren, out of the shouren and one of the guren i made a jizai, which is a nice weapon, and i know there will now be many of them soon, nevermind.
All i can say is dangerous deal with black paper isn't that special, and PSOBB will go on.
Poo Fly Wrote:i obtained 3 invisible guards,
Safety Heart is a very good shield (on par with Rico's Earrings), and on GC it takes over 50 hours of Ruins spam to find... in Normal. On PSOBB, there is some goverment quest that has a slightly better way, but it is one of those first-room-repeats, and very boring.
it wasnt that safety heart is a bad thing, it was that it took a full 64 crystals to get what i had found, those took many months saving. and i doubt i'll ever use that many again, from now until i move onto psu.
How hard is to get one? I remember the droprate was once 1/21 from a rare enemy, then it was lowered to 7/8. Is that still true? If it is, then it really cannot be that hard... Nor can the Normal mode Zu route which gives (according to our guide):
- Black King Bar
- Vivienne
- Twin Blaze, Twin Brand
- Meteor Cudgel, Partisan of Lightning
- Demolition Comet, Monkey King Bar
- God/Body
Even if it is a random one of them, it still owns.
crystals drop from rare ep4 enemies on normal and hard, and satellite lizards on very hard and ultimate, rates i havent checked, but i have enough first hand experience to know how often, and i can say they aren't that bad a drop. but it took me months to find what i did find.
and right, normal zu route, yeah, one PC, would be nice getting hold of those, besides the god/body, where a heavenly body is slightly better, and an easier drop already. soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo you have to now take into account that you get one item for doing this quest on normal mode, and it isnt always going to be one of those. it could be a star atomiser, 100000meseta, addslot, barrier, and so on. so its easy enough to come out of the quest with nothing
so you wont always get one of the rare items? maybe, just maybe, BB will survive >.>