A Rena vs Anti Debate

[Anti Hacker]

Ahhh, Nomercy is quite correct. However, for my own amusment I will add:

1.) You create your own reason to exist. To rely on others to give you meaning is weakness.

Also the point to life is that it can and will happen anywhere it is possible to sustain such a chemical reaction. Life is just an overly complex chemical reaction which spawns intricate neural pathways tricking those who are sentient into believing they are more than they truly are.

The reason you exist is that life and reproduction makes collective matter more likely to survive. If life wasn't profitable to your particular atomic makeup you wouldn't be alive because you would already have been wiped out. Either that or you would exist as inanimate matter.

Finally; reason or "point" is an invention of the human mind and therefore there is no reason to assume the forces which scientifically brought you into being would even understand what it is you feel you need (a reason to be). It is not reasonable to always assume reason.

2.) Yeah, that's right. You figured it out by yourself. There would be no such place for people to be punished or praised for their lifes work. And there isnt. Why would you assume there was? thats like saying "If there was no >insert random made-up-land here< there would be no place where people are given credit for every random blue rock they found in life. Of course there isn't - and it would be nice if there was! Boy I'd go out hunting some blue rocks right now. But it's just stupid.

3.) I hate to break this to you but if anyone is an evil tyrant it's God.

Unholy Truth I: The Greed of God

Genesis

Genesis is a perfect starting point, because it is the starting point of everything and the starting point of everything that is wrong in this world:

“7 then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.”

In Genesis God created the world in seven days; however, the only section of genesis which is of any real interest to us is when 'he' created humanity. God was alone and a creative entity – and so he created man. This is the only real favour which God has ever done for humanity. In fact, some would go so far as to say that even this was an atrocity due to the amount of suffering our own minds cause us. Surely our anguish at our mortality and our uncertainty of a continued existence are
hateful acts. What else is interesting about this stage in the worlds creation?

Job 38:4-7 “Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone - while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?”

This is surely interesting. The “Angels” existed as God created the world. In fact, the bible never specifies when they were created. I put it to you that God never created angels. And that, just as Lucifer, God was once an angel. A fact which he cunningly hid. God rose above all other spiritual beings calling them into his collective hierarchy. He became the Tyrant of the Heavens.

“16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

Just as all tyrants and dictators fear knowledge and ideas, so does God. Did God fear that if his pets knew almost as much as he did – that we might bite him? God gave us free will, but he also gave free will to the angels who formerly turned against him. Among them, democratic Lucifer the voice of reason. Maybe we are attempt two or three at the “Ant Farm” constructed by God.

“18 Then the LORD God said, "It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him." 19 Now out of the ground the LORD God had formed every beast of the field and every bird of the heavens and brought them to the man to see what he would call them. And whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. 20 The man gave names to all livestock and to the birds of the heavens and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper fit for him. 21 So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh. 22 And the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. 23 Then the man said,

“This at last is bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called Woman,
because she was taken out of Man.”

Even within God's world he felt the need to implement hierarchy. If we look at the example above we can clearly see that the sexes are divided according to God. Man before woman in creation and in order of importance. This is clearly wrong, immoral and imbalanced;
However, even before man when God ordered the angels into their “Spheres” God had created hierarchy:

First Sphere


Seraphim
Cherubim
Ophanim

Second Sphere

Thrones
Dominions
Principalities

Third Sphere

Powers
Archangels
Angels

It appears that God has a lust for domination and hierarchical order in all places, realities and dimensions of existence. The Seraphim is the only “Singular” spiritual entity besides the components of the Trinity in terms of rank. Ironically, Lucifer was once a/the Seraphim before he fell from God's favour by trying to rise above him. Lucifer surely had a right to express that he felt he should become the lead entity of the universe; why did God react by casting his brightest pupil into the depths of hell? It is my opinion that God was afraid Satan would make a fairer and more just ruler than he. A ruler with more potential.

However, because God was more aggressive and dangerous than Satan he was able to cast Lucifer from the heavens. Here begins the pain and suffering of humanity. Here is where God declared war on democracy which the worthiest human societies prize so highly.

Number 4...)

I would want bad people to be punished yes. But does me wanting something make it true? I mean I also want a giant yellow penguin named Fred - don't see one of those. And if there is one he ain't mine...

5.)

I have. It's not that great. YOU READ "God Is Not Great" by "Christopher Hitchens"

6.)

The evidence suggests the contrary.

7.)

I don't care if you renounce your faith it's not that big a deal to me or probably anyone else here.

8.)

Clearly I can -_-; having studied religion, philosophy and having actually BEEN a "confirmed" christian I am in a fairly clued in position on that religion.