"IDers think that evolution is false. They dress up their idiocy in voluminous bullfuckery, but the basic argument is identical to that of creationists: they believe evolution theory does not work. They just don't bother to name the invisible man in the sky who created the biosystem through unnamed, untestable, and indescribable mechanisms."
-- Michael Wong
Please man... Learn biology, anatomy, physics, and chemistry before you start shouting off about evolution. Your absolute butchery of each and every one of these topics both offends and astounds me, that the educatory system has failed in such a magnificent way. Before you try and bluff your way through this with your failed definitions of the words "random" and "complex", let me tutor you on the subject.
Is the following number sequence random: 592653589793238462643383279? It not only looks random: it is random. But lacking in meaning? No. These are the digits of pi beginning with the fourth decimal place.
Random does not mean 'meaningless.' The scientific meaning of random is that something cannot be predicted with better accuracy than that predicted by statistics. The phenomenon is its own simplest description. Biological systems are far too complex to describe or predict mathematically. We have incomplete information, and significant events like climate change or asteroid impact are unpredictable.
Intelligent human life came about around 400,000 years ago. These 'pre-historic' men were much the same as we, except without the knowledge of science and handywork we have nowadays. Now as you can probably guess, they weren't exactly the same kind of people we are. They were, for all intents and purposes, werewolves. Pack animals who hunted and killed in the exact same way, but for walking on two legs rather than the four determined as quadrupeds. The result of the harsh environment they lived in caused them to change. To evolve and adapt to changing surroundings in order to survive.
This was not caused by any holy deity, it was a will to live. It was change or die, much as it is now. Whilst you continue to argue your case for the holy messiah, reiterating statements again and again which have no depth nor evidence to them, you dig a deeper hole in which I bury you. I have provided, again and again hard evidence for the theory of evolution, which can be backed up by many prominent scientists. I fail to see where your manufactured faith derives itself from, as your arguments reek of the same weakness I put up with whenever religious fanatics attempt to prove their case. You say the exact same things, but with worse grammatical ability.
The truth of the matter is this: if you really believed in the moral truths of the causes you champion, you would not need the church. If these ideals are truly reasonable, ethical human values, then even we heretics would uphold them, and the voice of the church would not need to be heard in order for them to become law.
Yes, it can be truly said that the only weight the church can add is the weight of 'god said so.' No, I tell you that the church is not the top of the moral ladder, because the church has never had the interests of mankind at heart. They do not even have the interests of god at heart. They have the interests of a few men clinging to outdated ideals and power, men who would rather 'stick to their guns' than say 'Hey, it's okay if you use birth control.'
I contend that if you believe the church needs any say in championing it's morals, then you do not truly believe in those causes--you only follow them because 'god said so.' For if you had other reasons to promote them, you would not need the church--and that is why the American Constitution specifies separation; so that the reasons for a law are genuine, and not influenced by the only contribution the church can make--that some phantom entity among the clouds wants it to be so.
Religions are not moral authorities. They are not the wise old institutions trying to instill sense into the masses. They are the kings of conquest and murder, the princes of hate and intolerance. They are the champions of ignorance, and the royal family of war.
"Faith is often the boast of the man who is too lazy to investigate.
-- F.M. Knowles
-- Michael Wong
Please man... Learn biology, anatomy, physics, and chemistry before you start shouting off about evolution. Your absolute butchery of each and every one of these topics both offends and astounds me, that the educatory system has failed in such a magnificent way. Before you try and bluff your way through this with your failed definitions of the words "random" and "complex", let me tutor you on the subject.
Is the following number sequence random: 592653589793238462643383279? It not only looks random: it is random. But lacking in meaning? No. These are the digits of pi beginning with the fourth decimal place.
Random does not mean 'meaningless.' The scientific meaning of random is that something cannot be predicted with better accuracy than that predicted by statistics. The phenomenon is its own simplest description. Biological systems are far too complex to describe or predict mathematically. We have incomplete information, and significant events like climate change or asteroid impact are unpredictable.
Intelligent human life came about around 400,000 years ago. These 'pre-historic' men were much the same as we, except without the knowledge of science and handywork we have nowadays. Now as you can probably guess, they weren't exactly the same kind of people we are. They were, for all intents and purposes, werewolves. Pack animals who hunted and killed in the exact same way, but for walking on two legs rather than the four determined as quadrupeds. The result of the harsh environment they lived in caused them to change. To evolve and adapt to changing surroundings in order to survive.
This was not caused by any holy deity, it was a will to live. It was change or die, much as it is now. Whilst you continue to argue your case for the holy messiah, reiterating statements again and again which have no depth nor evidence to them, you dig a deeper hole in which I bury you. I have provided, again and again hard evidence for the theory of evolution, which can be backed up by many prominent scientists. I fail to see where your manufactured faith derives itself from, as your arguments reek of the same weakness I put up with whenever religious fanatics attempt to prove their case. You say the exact same things, but with worse grammatical ability.
The truth of the matter is this: if you really believed in the moral truths of the causes you champion, you would not need the church. If these ideals are truly reasonable, ethical human values, then even we heretics would uphold them, and the voice of the church would not need to be heard in order for them to become law.
Yes, it can be truly said that the only weight the church can add is the weight of 'god said so.' No, I tell you that the church is not the top of the moral ladder, because the church has never had the interests of mankind at heart. They do not even have the interests of god at heart. They have the interests of a few men clinging to outdated ideals and power, men who would rather 'stick to their guns' than say 'Hey, it's okay if you use birth control.'
I contend that if you believe the church needs any say in championing it's morals, then you do not truly believe in those causes--you only follow them because 'god said so.' For if you had other reasons to promote them, you would not need the church--and that is why the American Constitution specifies separation; so that the reasons for a law are genuine, and not influenced by the only contribution the church can make--that some phantom entity among the clouds wants it to be so.
Religions are not moral authorities. They are not the wise old institutions trying to instill sense into the masses. They are the kings of conquest and murder, the princes of hate and intolerance. They are the champions of ignorance, and the royal family of war.
"Faith is often the boast of the man who is too lazy to investigate.
-- F.M. Knowles
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