The Iraq War

[Archer]

lol, see, people just ignore my post . Listen, terror comes in many forms. Sadam Hussein is seen as a dictator but technically hes a terrorist as well. Does he not terrorize his people? Fidel Castro on the other hand is a true dictator, he rules over his people but doesn't terrorize them. Back to my point. Under equiped? Under manned? and you guys claim to be the greatest army in the world. Not in my books if you put it that way. Your 100 times superior to the Iraqi army and insurgents without all your fancy gizmos. Besides, bullet proof vests slow down the bullet, enough shots and your still dead. People have to leave that flesh and blood doesn't mean your invinsible. War brings death, you can't start a war and end it without some losses. Maybe when muskets were used in the old days but now, all these explosives and high powered assault rifles, your bound to get someone who gets shot. Anyways, I think its a good idea to deal with all this crap now, Sadam, all of them who cares about just the World Trade Center that everyone keeps preaching about, throw that civilian thought out the door. You have to look on the bigger front. Take out these terrorists now, everyone one of them, including ruthless dictators and loose cannon countrys before they become 10 times stronger. Also, The US is a member of the United Nations is it not? Therefore its also the United States job to uphold this crap as well even if the others don't think so.

[misterbud]

You miss the point, instead of killing Osama Bin Laden, the one who killed 3000 Americans, we give the job to some of his old buddies, and run after Saddam. Now explain the logic in this to me...Cause I really don't see it.

[Archer]

You miss the point, instead of killing Osama Bin Laden, the one who killed 3000 Americans, we give the job to some of his old buddies, and run after Saddam. Now explain the logic in this to me...Cause I really don't see it.

lol, I don't either but thats not what I am pointing out. If everyone in the world got up off their ass and helped, things would have been much different. And, stop quoting all the crap Kerry says and put it in your own words . Alright, just for the record, I'm not saying George Bush is the greatest, or will be the greatest president ever, but I think hes doing a better job than Kerry could. Plus hes fighting back while all the other presidents were saying "hmmm, more inspections and tariffs etc!". We need to start shooting back. Any, its not just about americans anymore, if you think that, lol, then I'll personally pay for a ticket for you to Iraq and you can swap up with a family from there for a year. You get shot at and you get killed just for opposing something. People in North America got it made. Some, maybe not but thats another discussion. Anyways, We got a house, food, clean water, safety from the police etc. Iraq and other countries in the middle east don't have these luxuries. That doesn't mean you can just ditch them and forget about them. Help them! Even if they refuse, you help anyways. Ie on a much smaller scale: *person lifting heavy box that they are straining to lift* "need help?" "no, I have it" <--- they say that but they probably actually don't. Then they check themselves into a hospital because their back is thrown out. People sometimes deny help because they are too proud of themselves, sometimes you need to stuff it down their mouth before they finally accept it. Iraq is a country in distress and it is our job as humain Human(<--- thats the key word) Beings to step up and help. Don't be selfish. Finally, also for the record, I am actually Canadian as my profile says . No, this doesn't change anything but I thought you people should know ^_~. Oh, and btw, Logic isn't human. It tells you the best course of action but it isn't always the right. IE: Your calculations show you that your country will be defeated and millions of your people will die if you don't surrender soon. Your people have fought long and hard and are determined to win. Logically tells you to give up. that doesn't mean you should? Sometimes its amazing what determination and unity can do. Now, people say "its impossible to beat terrorism and to make Iraq and all these countries democratic". Thats crap from people who are quitters. Quitters never win ofcourse (excluding some wacky rare exception that is irrelivent so don't try giving me some explaination). If we all work together, we can crush this now, and keep swatting the new crap that comes out easily. Right now, were all working against each other, not helping each other etc. This is a world wide epidemic and should be crushed immediately. Later you say? Your only prolonging the inevitable confrontation, they'll be better prepared and stronger the longer we wait. Would you rather have your family line being blown up in the future? I wouldn't, and if I could, I'd give my life to defeat terrorism.

[misterbud]

All of what you say is perfectly valid. However, I am not quoting Kerry...I did put it in my own words.

I have seen what this president has done, he deviates from the established policy when it suits him, he rushes off to fight a war when we aren't even done with the one we were in. And I'm not even going into the other issues like: Economy, Gay marrage, Abortion, The environment, and Social Security.

And you still tell me that this president is the best one for the job?

On a side note, study the Roman Republic/Empire...notice what happened there, then notice what is happening in America today. Pretty scary eh? Seems that we are pretty much a repeat of the Romans, and you know what happened to the Romans. :O

[mimas]

On a side note, study the Roman Republic/Empire...notice what happened there, then notice what is happening in America today. Pretty scary eh? Seems that we are pretty much a repeat of the Romans, and you know what happened to the Romans. :O

They were running a very successful society until the Goths sacked Rome. In the case of the Republic, a certain guy going by the name of Gaius Julius Caesar helped to bring that to a close...

[Archer]

theres also a difference, now its against to law to conquer other countries without just. Iraq war and Afghanistan is different and so are any others in the name of terrorism. So, that is a horrible example . Plus, Rome was controlling too much land for its legions to effectively defend. And, there was bribery and legions fighting each other at the time. The US military is not shooting at each other .

[Red XIII]

:'( Iraq war to me is a blood for money thing bush attacks and pockets money for himself the 9/11 was a set up and that just how i feel :'(

[cOoLdUdE]

Still, 11,000 PEOPLE were killed THAT is ****IN BULL**** THOSE SON OF *****ES ... GOD****

[SirTom909]

Still, 11,000 PEOPLE were killed THAT is ****IN BULL**** THOSE SON OF *****ES ... GOD****

who let the kids out? who who?

[Archer]

Still, 11,000 PEOPLE were killed THAT is ****IN BULL**** THOSE SON OF *****ES ... GOD****QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Red XIII]:'( Iraq war to me is a blood for money thing bush attacks and pockets money for himself the 9/11 was a set up and that just how i feel :'(

lol, anyways. 11,000 people were killed true. But going to kill others in bloodlust is also wrong so no one go trying that . And, this is Iraq, not Afghanistan, a totally different front in the war on terror. imo, many more will die so suck it up, losses always happen, even if you say there won't be. There are always hidden snags and catches to these kinds of things.

Also, Red XIII, if it was for money, it wouldn't be worth it. 1. US is paying a lot for this war, lives, money etc. 2. Oil is on the decline, slowly and unoticably. Electricity and Hydrogen are possibly going to replace it. 3. Everyone gives that crap "its all about the oil" because they don't like the fact that war is upon the world. I'm sorry to dissapoint them but talking just won't work anymore, you have to do it the old fasioned way.