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hang on, i read this and found something disturbing:
m+a60 vise are better than l+k combats. l+k are more powerful, more accurate and look better. all the m+a have is the beserk special, which doesnt give them a that much greater advantage for the hp loss to be justified.
however, i think the GM is better than MM because of the special, so there you go :S
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Yes, L&K14 Combat has better stats than M&A60 Vise. By, what, 1 ATP and 1 ATA? >_>;
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Vise looks much better then LK.
Vise > Combat, Vise has a great special.
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M&A Vise (grinded):
ATP 33-43
ATA 15
LCK 5
L&K Combat (grinded):
ATP 55-70
ATA 18
LCK 10
If you're big on specials, then the Vise is way better. If you don't use specials too much, then the Combat is definitely the one for you.
You got to love the way the Comat has the spinning muzzle though. That's one of the few places where ST actually decided to do some extra work.

I always preferred the look of the H&S Justice though.
Too legit to quit.
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Vise does the same with the muzzle, it rotates, plus, it's purple ! ;o
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twin psychoguns if your a low level(better then m&a 60 vice and justice but not combat[not special]) s-rank mechs with berserk/charge/gush. gm if you want to hunt for ever >_>.
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dnd Wrote:gm if you want to hunt for ever >_>.
i have the milla!!! guld will take a while :S:S:S
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Yea, if your in Hard Mode, Twin Psychoguns are awsome. Get a pair as fast as you can.
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dnd Wrote:twin psychoguns if your a low level(better then m&a 60 vice and justice but not combat[not special]) s-rank mechs with berserk/charge/gush. gm if you want to hunt for ever >_>.
Cannot get charge on s-ranks and Beserk and Spirit are wasted
Just hunt a pair of Vulcans with Hit, and beserk, or pipe charge!
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there isn't anything better then vucans that can be found offline???