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that works too.

Quite well, I might add.

my religion had nothing to do with it so i really don't have a problem what you guys say about it.

What religion are you, again?

i am Missouri Synod Lutheran, a man named Martin Luther who was born around 500 years ago at the most.not sure?

Ah. I figured as much. I know all about the protestant religions. Jehovah's witnesses being the oddest of them all.

Dark Blade Wrote:how would someone force you to beleive something anyway, you can't really force anything on someone, you can keep pressureing someone to beleive something until they would just give in, which is different than forceing it on sombody. like some of your friends try to convince you to cheat on a test and you keep saying no and finally you agree to cheat or help them cheat, you wouldn't be force into it you would just give into peer pressure.

I mean like the people who go around and try to convince people that there is only one right religion that u can follow and if u follow other religions u'll burn in hell, or sumthin like that. For example the other day i was talkin to a freind and i said i didn't have a relgion and this girl out of nowhere starts saying that i'm a sinner and crap like that. the point is worship ur or don't. but don't tell people that one relgion is worse than another. that's how u get the Crusades, WWII, and the other countless religious wars that have happened i never said u do or don't.

Religion lies at the very base of the current USA vs Al-Queada war. The American Neo-Conservatives (aka right wing Christians) vs Osama Bin-Ladin, an Islamic Extremist. In my honest opinion both of these groups are an absolute bloody disgrace to any average follower of Christianity/Islam who's idea of religion involves the truth and not lies backed up with guns.

NO religion should be forced down anyones throat. One of my partner was raised in accordance with the strictest form of Catholasism, and she suffered because of it. She told me that she would never get her own children baptised or indocterined into any religious establishment, they would make their own decisions about religion when they were older.

Religion is like politics. Have a conversation in a pub about it with people you don't really know and an arguement is bound to break out. I can already see tempers fraying in this thread, and if I was a moderator I'd probably lock it or delete it before too many people get upset with each other.

Regards

UK Jester

Religion is not a free choice in other countries, so I think it's lucky that we can discuss this. Others aren't as fortunate.

very true Serpent7, but Uk Jester religion may be the cause of the reason why the terrorits did what they did, but don't just blame the christains for the US to go to war, both christains and nonchristains wanted to go to war and i would have expected nothing less of Bush for making the decsion to go to war, and i'm pretty sure almost any American feels the same way that i do, for the most part anyways. and i do agree with what she said about letting people choose what religion that they want to be when they are older.